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srvo ◴[] No.45008850[source]
The problem here isn't that the government gets involved in businesses. That has always been something they do.

The problem is that these days they do it capriciously, without any sort of plan or intention.

The government played a foundational role in supporting the early stage research that enabled companies like Intel to emerge. Underwriting that sort of long-term investment that wouldn't easily attract commercial capital is a great place for them to be.

Meanwhile, is it even the case that the American chip industry is declining? Apple, Nvidia, and Google all have significant chip manufacturing operations. And this isn't an industry I even follow particularly closesly.

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xethos ◴[] No.45009433[source]
> Apple, Nvidia, and Google all have significant chip manufacturing operations

No, they all (as well as AMD) all have significant chip designing operations. Not one of them can actually fabricate their own chips. Every single one of them must speak to TSMC or Samsung if they want to take their designs from the whiteboard to the physical world.

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anonfordays ◴[] No.45009870[source]
Amazes me how many self-proclaimed "techies" don't know this simple fact.
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1. jajko ◴[] No.45011131[source]
You would be amazed how many seemingly basic things about this world and IT you don't know... a bit of humility goes much longer way than this.
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2. anonfordays ◴[] No.45013203[source]
If I don't know something, I don't make statements such as "Apple, Nvidia, and Google all have significant chip manufacturing operations..." a bit of humility goes much longer way than this.
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3. jajko ◴[] No.45013359[source]
I don't think you understood my post
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4. anonfordays ◴[] No.45013542{3}[source]
Nor did you understand mine.