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smolder ◴[] No.45010312[source]
I'm all about liberal freedom, but blocking 4chan would actually help society given how abused it is by counter-intelligence. There is bullshit spewed there constantly and no one should be subject to that trash in a functioning society.
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dmix ◴[] No.45010357[source]
I don't think you know what counter intelligence means. That'd just be a regular intelligence or government PR operation.

I don't use 4chan but that stuffs pretty easy to spot on Tiktok and reddit if you're paying attention. Conspiracy type stuff is rampant on those sites. Especially around elections or conflicts like wars.

Content moderation or censorship can be an equally dangerous vector for government influence campaigns as well.

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smolder ◴[] No.45010393[source]
I don't think you have a point, sorry. My post was correct. That forum is abused to create counter-factual q-anon type shit.
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dmix ◴[] No.45010519[source]
Q anon was started by Chan's admin, some random guy living in South East Asia, and was embarrassingly amateur

You can be upset about the sort of content on 4chan. Most of the planet would agree. You don't need to frame it as something sophisticated because you don't like it and want it censored.

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1. smolder ◴[] No.45010547[source]
I don't think censorship is a good thing unless it's censoring concerted efforts to spread false information which reshape the political landscape. You are underselling the bullshit that you say "8chan admins" were responsible for. It's inexcusable.

I'm not upset about the content aside from it being a clear devious effort to spread lies and shift public opinion.

Stop framing it as something different. No one with a brain is buying it, and yes, we are pissed.

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2. EarlKing ◴[] No.45010768[source]
The funny thing about "false information" being "spread" by "8chan admins" (or 4chan for that matter) is.... you can avoid it by simply not going there. Stop going there if you don't like it.
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3. smolder ◴[] No.45011068[source]
So true! I wish people would stop eating up the false information from 4chan and whatever else chan, 8chan apparently but the reference got removed. Its a cesspool.
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5. smolder ◴[] No.45011103[source]
Have you considered that spreading false information is common on that forum that i should simply not attend? Maybe the idiots you talk to on 4chan should be held to a higher standard? Or do you think "doing your own research" means believing in the first thing a right wing retard news source tells you?
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6. smolder ◴[] No.45011122[source]
You are so embarassing.
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8. EarlKing ◴[] No.45019798{3}[source]
If "false information" is common there... don't go there. No, I don't think they, or indeed anyone, needs to be held to a "higher standard". No one is obligated to tell you "the truth" as you see it. If you're uncomfortable being on a forum where you opinions may be challenged then the American side of the Internet simply isn't for you. In fact, if it really bothers you that much, may I suggest that your country recommend de-peering from the global Internet? That would certainly solve the problem.
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9. smolder ◴[] No.45072986{4}[source]
I think you should de-peer from the internet, as someone not interested in pursuing a utilitarian ideal. You have misunderstood what 'the problem' is, like most parasites with a god complex.
10. smolder ◴[] No.45073042{4}[source]
I'm on board with not censoring the army of agenda driven liars on 4chan but I just want people to know that they do make up lies and shift public opinion on the payroll of despotic oligarchs. There is no political truth to be had on any "chan" because there is a group or groups working hard to spread lies and set every visitor off course.