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dismalaf ◴[] No.45008413[source]
So should the government give bailouts without getting any equity back? Only deal in loans?

Intel is strategically important. As nice as it is to pretend that the whole world plays by the same rules, that the free market exists everywhere and that we'll never to to war, there are bad actors and the US (rest of the collective West as well) need to ensure that we won't be completely crippled if China attacks a single island off their coast...

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justonceokay ◴[] No.45008442[source]
Is there a difference between this and nationalization? Just a matter of degree?
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dismalaf ◴[] No.45008455[source]
> Just a matter of degree?

That and when most governments "nationalise" corporations they seize them and don't give the owners/shareholders anything.

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1. aspenmayer ◴[] No.45008711[source]
> That and when most governments "nationalise" corporations they seize them and don't give the owners/shareholders anything.

First you get the money, then you get the power.

Money is fungible, but power isn't. Arguably, taking away my power is an affront to my human rights. Taking my money is an affront, but it never was my money to begin with, as I don't control the value or creation of it. My rights are inalienable.