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    1. digianarchist ◴[] No.45005926[source]
    There are a lot of extra steps the UK government can take beyond the fines:

    > In the most extreme cases, with the agreement of the courts, Ofcom will be able to require payment providers, advertisers and internet service providers to stop working with a site, preventing it from generating money or being accessed from the UK.

    They’ve done this before (various piracy websites are blocked by ISPs).

    The criminal liability of senior managers could cause travel headaches too.

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    2. miohtama ◴[] No.45006596[source]
    Yes, and it's not just the UK

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2kz9kn93o

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    3. digianarchist ◴[] No.45006766[source]
    True. Proposal not law mind.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/174...

    4. RenThraysk ◴[] No.45008116[source]
    OFCOM is powerless. ISP blocks are worthless.

    This is going to fizzle out, like the Australian eSafety team trying to remove content off X globally.

    Or get Apple to poke holes in it's crypto. Just not going to happen.

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    5. cedws ◴[] No.45010102[source]
    Unfortunately the government is winning, Apple’s ADP encryption is no longer available in the UK. The Online Safety Act was finally forced through after over 10 years.

    They’ll eventually get what they want in any case the same way a chisel can eventually dig through a mountain.

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    7. Hilift ◴[] No.45011026[source]
    eSafety is a joke. However, the Human Rights Commission has the funding to launch multi-year investigations into YouTubers that make people cry and poop their pants. That's power, although they do admit the investigations cannot currently proceed beyond investigations due to there aren't any punishments or remedies in the statute. But that's a clerical error that should be remedied some day.
    8. silverliver ◴[] No.45011905{3}[source]
    > Unfortunately the government is winning

    In the UK. Their abuse will be restricted to people living within their borders unless the US allows it. The UK is not in any position to harass US companies, even more so now that they lack EU's backing.

    Only UK residents (including their children) will really be harmed by this nonsense.

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    9. RenThraysk ◴[] No.45012195{3}[source]
    There is no winning. It's an infinite game of whackamole.
    10. cedws ◴[] No.45023313{4}[source]
    Ah ok so we don’t matter. Cool, thanks.
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    11. silverliver ◴[] No.45024043{5}[source]
    Honestly, you don't.

    Your government is completely out of control. I can't care about you if you, UK citizens, choose not to do anything about it. You are the only people on the planet in any position to do anything about this.

    Good luck.