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zoobab ◴[] No.45003254[source]
More censorship is a good inventive to build really uncensorable protocols that ISPs can't mess with.
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mzajc ◴[] No.45003394[source]
These protocols or revisions already exist - DNSSEC at the site level and DoT/DoH at the user level prevent this kind of malicious tampering with responses by the ISP.

The issue is that they're not commonly used, and even if that changes, the ISPs can roll out harder-to-bypass censorship methods like SNI inspection or IP blocks.

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1. jeroenhd ◴[] No.45005347[source]
SNI blocking will hopefully be harder now that Let's Encrypt is rolling out IP certificates, so ECH becomes viable for websites that don't share an IP address with known-good websites (like Cloudflare tunnels). IP blocks will be the only solution on the normal web.

For everything else, there's I2P and Tor.