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ulrischa ◴[] No.45003303[source]
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mtsr ◴[] No.45003337[source]
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jddj ◴[] No.45003346[source]
I didn't get the impression they were making any value judgement
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mtsr ◴[] No.45003351[source]
You’re right. I guess I am. I’m pretty happy RT is blocked.
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jstanley ◴[] No.45003440[source]
Why?
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mtsr ◴[] No.45003532[source]
Because it’s turning out that too many people are susceptible to (this specific, but also other) propaganda.
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Amezarak ◴[] No.45003788[source]
If you think the masses are too susceptible to unapproved propaganda to the extent we have to censor it, it’s not clear to me that you can consistently believe democracy should be your form of government, as opposed to some sort of rule by experts/the rich/the educated/aristocrats/something else. It’s effectively saying the masses get a choice unless it’s the wrong choice.

I believe in democracy. If people want to listen to ridiculous and false Russian propaganda or support Russia against Ukraine they should be able to without hindrance, even if their politicians or the better informed don’t like it. It’s their job to persuade their fellows. They shouldn’t get to declare their beliefs are right and beyond democratic contestation.

Sometimes democracies make really bad decisions. Alciabiades conned the Athenians into the disastrous Sicilian Expedition. That’s the tradeoff you get for having a democracy. Declaring some subjects out of bounds is taking away democracy and installing something else instead, with those tradeoffs, that we as a society decided we weren’t going to make, without consensus.

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petre ◴[] No.45003995[source]
> It’s their job to persuade their fellows.

Sorry, I'm more confortable with RT being blocked than having another Adolf Hitler screaming their own propaganda.

Screw Russia and China. The Internet blocking committee should probably also block Tiktok while they're at it, as it makes people's brains rot.

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rdm_blackhole ◴[] No.45004113[source]
You are comfortable with the blocking until the politicians start blocking something you care about.

When that happens, you won't be happy anymore and you will go on Twitter complaining that your government is turning fascist in a hurry and ask how nobody did anything to stop this.

But you probably think that it's never going to happen because you are one of the good people, not the scum of the earth that dares watching Tiktok.

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1. petre ◴[] No.45004196[source]
Don't worry, nobody would stop it anyway, at least nobody on Twitter and Tiktok. The Kremlin is paying the nazis to scream, shout and create diversions. Then they could justify other de-nazifying invasions. The only ones rallying now are the nazis, screaming and shouting, oh no, cancelled elections.