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A German ISP changed their DNS to block my website

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808 points shaunpud | 1 comments | 24 Aug 25 10:27 UTC | HN request time: 0.223s | source
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zoobab ◴[24 Aug 25 11:09 UTC] No.45003254[source]▶
More censorship is a good inventive to build really uncensorable protocols that ISPs can't mess with.
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mzajc ◴[24 Aug 25 11:30 UTC] No.45003394[source]▶
These protocols or revisions already exist - DNSSEC at the site level and DoT/DoH at the user level prevent this kind of malicious tampering with responses by the ISP.

The issue is that they're not commonly used, and even if that changes, the ISPs can roll out harder-to-bypass censorship methods like SNI inspection or IP blocks.

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ACCount37 ◴[24 Aug 25 12:16 UTC] No.45003671[source]▶
And webmasters can, in turn, ramp up the adoption of QUIC, ECH, IPv6, or bury their frontend in some CDN that you can't feasibly "IP ban" without massive collateral damage.

You can't win the war against corporate censorship and malicious anti-freedom politicians through purely technical means. But you can sure make it much harder for them.

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Buttons840 ◴[24 Aug 25 12:38 UTC] No.45003803[source]▶
Imagine if the radios we all carry with us everywhere could be programmed to communicate with each other.

(I'm not sure why I replied here. I guess I'm saying that establishing some kind of mesh network protocol between all cellphones would be a great addition to those other protocols you mentioned.)

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1. ACCount37 ◴[24 Aug 25 13:00 UTC] No.45003950[source]▶
Cellular modems are typically locked down completely to shit. But I know of a few LTE chips that can be obtained with no pre-burned vendor boot keys, and also have the vendor modem sources and toolchains leaked.