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808 points shaunpud | 13 comments | 24 Aug 25 10:27 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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ulrischa ◴[24 Aug 25 11:15 UTC] No.45003303[source]▶
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mtsr ◴[24 Aug 25 11:20 UTC] No.45003337[source]▶
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heelix ◴[24 Aug 25 11:53 UTC] No.45003529[source]▶
I would. Appetite for censorship should be measured against something I find unpalatable. When one starts down the road of making decisions for others - it is only a question of time before someone does the same for you with possibly a different perspective. The moment one finds themselves outside the groupthink on spaces vs tabs, I'd like that bar to be as far away as possible.
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bootsmann ◴[24 Aug 25 11:56 UTC] No.45003551[source]▶
> The moment one finds themselves outside the groupthink

The RT ban is not about what RT publishes, you are free to publish their arguments more or less verbatim on your own site without getting sanctioned in Europe (which indeed some people do). The RT ban is about RT being a state owned propaganda network owned by the government thats waging an active war against Europe.

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1. ur-whale ◴[24 Aug 25 12:12 UTC] No.45003645[source]▶
> The RT ban is about RT being a state owned propaganda network owned by the government thats waging an active war against Europe.

And ... ?

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2. multjoy ◴[24 Aug 25 12:18 UTC] No.45003691[source]▶
Do you think allowing an enemy state free reign to broadcast propaganda to your population makes good tactical sense?
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4. dvdkon ◴[24 Aug 25 12:36 UTC] No.45003795[source]▶
Freedom of speech rarely makes "tactical sense", which is why we as citizens need to continually fight for it.
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5. zahlman ◴[24 Aug 25 12:44 UTC] No.45003842[source]▶
This is inconsistent with the upthread argument:

> The RT ban is not about what RT publishes, you are free to publish their arguments more or less verbatim on your own site without getting sanctioned in Europe (which indeed some people do).

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6. raverbashing ◴[24 Aug 25 12:55 UTC] No.45003911[source]▶
Some people really do not need their holidays north of Seoul prevented
7. logicchains ◴[24 Aug 25 13:10 UTC] No.45004009[source]▶
If you believe in any kind of system of morality, it's absolutely possible for one's own government to be in the moral wrong and the enemy government to be in the moral right. Censorship means the citizens may never learn that their country is the bad guy in that case.
8. zx8080 ◴[24 Aug 25 13:27 UTC] No.45004104[source]▶
somehow missed the fact that the EU has declared war already
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9. 0x073 ◴[24 Aug 25 13:29 UTC] No.45004118[source]▶
paradox of tolerance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

10. multjoy ◴[24 Aug 25 13:45 UTC] No.45004205{3}[source]▶
The difference is they're not an enemy sovereign state. This isn't contradictory or illogical.
11. multjoy ◴[24 Aug 25 13:45 UTC] No.45004212{3}[source]▶
You don't need to declare war to have enemies. After all, Russia has launched chemical and radiological attacks on EU states.
12. jdiff ◴[24 Aug 25 13:46 UTC] No.45004217{3}[source]▶
It is not. People are allowed to do what they will, as long as those people are not the outlet itself. The propaganda outlet loses control over it and cannot push the media through, only hope that others pull it from them.
13. fireflash38 ◴[24 Aug 25 14:41 UTC] No.45004611{3}[source]▶
The irony of freedom of speech, much like democracy in general, is that it can destroy itself.