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diego_sandoval ◴[] No.44998676[source]
It shocks me when people say that LLMs don't make them more productive, because my experience has been the complete opposite, especially with Claude Code.

Either I'm worse than then at programming, to the point that I find an LLM useful and they don't, or they don't know how to use LLMs for coding.

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1. lambda ◴[] No.44998918[source]
It can be more than one reason.

First of all, keep in mind that research has shown that people generally overestimate the productivity gains of LLM coding assistance. Even when using a coding assistant makes them less productive, they feel like they are more productive.

Second, yeah, experience matters, both with programming and LLM coding assistants. The better you are, the less helpful the coding assistant will be, it can take less work to just write what you want than convince an LLM to do it.

Third, some people are more sensitive to the kind of errors or style that LLMs tend to use. I frequently can't stand the output of LLMs, even if it technically works; it doesn't live to to my personal standards.

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2. pton_xd ◴[] No.44998967[source]
> Third, some people are more sensitive to the kind of errors or style that LLMs tend to use. I frequently can't stand the output of LLMs, even if it technically works; it doesn't live to to my personal standards.

I've noticed the stronger my opinions are about how code should be written or structured, the less productive LLMs feel to me. Then I'm just fighting them at every step to do things "my way."

If I don't really have an opinion about what's going on, LLMs churning out hundreds of lines of mostly-working code is a huge boon. After all, I'd rather not spend the energy thinking through code I don't care about.

3. Uehreka ◴[] No.44999090[source]
> research has shown that people generally overestimate the productivity gains of LLM coding assistance.

I don’t think this research is fully baked. I don’t see a story in these results that aligns with my experience and makes me think “yeah, that actually is what I’m doing”. I get that at this point I’m supposed to go “the effect is so subtle that even I don’t notice it!” But experience tells me that’s not normally how this kind of thing works.

Perhaps we’re still figuring out how to describe the positive effects of these tools or what axes we should really be measuring on, but the idea that there’s some sort of placebo effect going on here doesn’t pass muster.

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4. phyzome ◴[] No.45003746[source]
I mean, you're one person (so it doesn't have to match) and you're not carefully measuring everything (so you don't have a basis for comparison).