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sgnelson ◴[] No.44992267[source]
Everyone is talking about "bailouts" and "owning a company that the government funds."

This isn't about that at all. This is about the breakdown of the rule of law, a unitary executive bypassing all other branches of government and demanding a private enterprise give itself over to the government.

If you don't think there was an "or else" as part of this deal, you're largely mistaken. If you don't think that there will be other questionalbe demands placed on Intel in the future from this government, you are largely mistaken.

But y'all go ahead and can keep arguing over whether we should "get something back" from this deal. Because that's really going to maker ameraica graet agian.

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fluoridation ◴[] No.44992539[source]
Why would the government need to "demand" to buy a piece of a publicly-traded company? Is 10% of Intel more than what is being traded in the public market?
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BurningFrog ◴[] No.44992580[source]
As I understand it, the government didn't pay anything for these shares.
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BeetleB ◴[] No.44992609[source]
Why does this keep coming up?

They're paying the rest of the CHIPS Act money. Overall, they're putting in over $10B into Intel.

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re-thc ◴[] No.44992881[source]
> They're paying the rest of the CHIPS Act money. Overall, they're putting in over $10B into Intel.

So taking a scholarship means you're giving a % of yourself to the school?

Was this ever mentioned when Intel signed up? Did you know about it?

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BeetleB ◴[] No.44993390[source]
> So taking a scholarship means you're giving a % of yourself to the school?

> Was this ever mentioned when Intel signed up? Did you know about it?

See my other comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44993388

The main point is that even with the prior administration, it wasn't a given Intel would receive all the money. This way, they get the full amount, and fast.

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re-thc ◴[] No.44996237[source]
> This way, they get the full amount, and fast.

Intel has >20B in the bank. If they really want to they can wait and sell shares for a better deal like with SoftBank.

i.e. not the main point.

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1. BeetleB ◴[] No.44997912[source]
They had that money in the bank (and much more) when they lobbied to get the CHIPS act passed. They want the money.

So yes, this is all about getting the rest of the money.

The administration is deciding they should not get it for free. Which totally makes sense given that Intel is openly signaling a willingness to halt semiconductor research.