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sgnelson ◴[] No.44992267[source]
Everyone is talking about "bailouts" and "owning a company that the government funds."

This isn't about that at all. This is about the breakdown of the rule of law, a unitary executive bypassing all other branches of government and demanding a private enterprise give itself over to the government.

If you don't think there was an "or else" as part of this deal, you're largely mistaken. If you don't think that there will be other questionalbe demands placed on Intel in the future from this government, you are largely mistaken.

But y'all go ahead and can keep arguing over whether we should "get something back" from this deal. Because that's really going to maker ameraica graet agian.

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fluoridation ◴[] No.44992539[source]
Why would the government need to "demand" to buy a piece of a publicly-traded company? Is 10% of Intel more than what is being traded in the public market?
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BurningFrog ◴[] No.44992580[source]
As I understand it, the government didn't pay anything for these shares.
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BeetleB ◴[] No.44992609[source]
Why does this keep coming up?

They're paying the rest of the CHIPS Act money. Overall, they're putting in over $10B into Intel.

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1. cududa ◴[] No.44992656[source]
Where in the bill passed by Congress does it say taking funds entitles the government to 10% of the company 3 years after the fact?
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2. BeetleB ◴[] No.44993388[source]
> company 3 years after the fact?

Intel hasn't gotten most of the money they were awarded. Even the Biden administration were hesitant in doling it out, because of concerns that Intel could deliver. That's why out of frustration, the previous CEO became vocal in saying "We still haven't gotten any money yet!" and was openly frustrated about it.

Lip-Bu Tan, in the last quarterly earnings signaled a decent likelihood of not developing 14A (and thus halting much of the semiconductor infrastructure they implied they would need the CHIPS money for). So it's perfectly fair for the government to say "We're not giving you the rest of the money."

What this deal does is release the rest of the money, but with strings attached.

There were always strings attached - even with the prior administration. The strings have merely changed, and Intel benefits by actually getting the money now vs a long drawn out process.