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net01 ◴[] No.44982851[source]
Ofcom can fine 4chan all it wants, but without UK assets those penalties are unenforceable, they have no power here.

This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.

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blibble ◴[] No.44982943[source]
> This is why the US dropped tea into Boston to have it's own Freedom.

the 3% tariff on Chinese tea was seen as oppressive

don't look at what has been imposed this year (without congressional approval)

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zdragnar ◴[] No.44983451[source]
The tariff was oppressive in large part because the colonies didn't have representation in Parliament and were allowed limited (and decreasing) local governance. The Stamp, Townshend and Intolerable Acts were a whole lot more than just "we don't wanna pay taxes".
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_heimdall ◴[] No.44983717[source]
A similar argument can be made against the tariffs though.

US consumers will be paying the bulk of the tariffs through price increases. We do have representatives in Congress, they just weren't the ones imposing tariffs.

edit: as fun as silent down votes are, it would be interesting to hear where you might disagree

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lenerdenator ◴[] No.44985597[source]
Unfortunately the representatives in Congress gave the tariff power to the Presidency.

Now, did they do that with the approval of the voters? Ostensibly, yes, but in reality, it's not that clear-cut.

This would be more like if the Thirteen Colonies had MPs and those MPs still voted in favor of the Stamp Act, or they voted to delegate the power to tariff to someone with a severe personality disorder.

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skybrian ◴[] No.44986478[source]
There are lawsuits arguing that Congress didn’t give the executive branch this power. They seem pretty persuasive to me and they’re successful so far, but we’ll see how the appeals process turns out.
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1. lenerdenator ◴[] No.44990420[source]
sigh

There are a lot of lawsuits about the executive branch doing things it supposedly doesn't have the power to do.

Generally the mood seems to be that only a SCOTUS ruling will potentially be taken seriously.