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nickdothutton ◴[] No.44983582[source]
Step 1, pass law.

Step 2, demand compliance.

Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines.

Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2).

Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc.

5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.

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sunshine-o ◴[] No.44984120[source]
This is the only power they have left.

The UK government has lost control of what happen in the physical world on their own island so now the bureaucrats play a fantasy game where they are gonna enforce their rules and dominion in their former colonies or the digital world.

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lokar ◴[] No.44985325[source]
While I disapprove of what the gov is doing here, I think it’s incorrect and unhelpful to put all the blame on them. AIUI, the UK is a democracy and these policies are generally supported by the voters.
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ranger_danger ◴[] No.44988134[source]
> generally supported by the voters

you could say the same about the US... that doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean people aren't violently voting against their own best interests.

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o11c ◴[] No.44988225[source]
It's a huge stretch to call the existence of 4chan in anyone's best interests.

First they came for 4chan and I said nothing, because good riddance!

This is not a slippery slope; this is a spring trying to return to the center. The harder the resistance at the extremes, the more energetic the oscillation will be, so if we want to minimize that, work on undermining the intolerable extremes.

The sheer anarchy of the libertarian mindset that much of this site supports is not a good thing.

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1. m-s-y ◴[] No.44988575{3}[source]
>It's a huge stretch to call the existence of 4chan in anyone's best interests.

Absolutely, 100% incorrect. You obviously don't approve of 4chan's content or mission, but that's not the point. It benefits everyone when anyone takes a stand because their legal rights are under attack.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

>This is not a slippery slope

Again, incorrect.

Any type of punishment for 4chan due to their legal content is damn close to the definition of "slippery slope". You're familiar with the "anti-slippery slope" argument already ("First they came for 4chan and I said nothing, because good riddance!"), so you're obviously cogent enough to understand what you're saying.

>The sheer anarchy of the libertarian mindset that much of this site supports is not a good thing.

This is not for you to decide. Your mindset is why free speech laws must exist in the first place.

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2. o11c ◴[] No.44989057[source]
The whole point of this is that what counts as "legal" is permitted to change. In particular, "legal under some circumstances" is a thing.