Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

I don’t think people commenting and downvoting us realize how things are in NYC. Not only do you have to deal with insane chaos you also have to deal with malicious drivers. Hit-and-run in NYC is shockingly high because it’s a no-fault state. People don’t stop after accidents. It’s gotten really bad since the pandemic.

I think some people pushing for driverless cars everywhere are assuming it will necessitate much stricter driving laws and penalties for human drivers to make their driving compatible with the robots. And they're fine with that, but they know it's not a selling point, so they don't talk about it.

> insane chaos

Hardly. I live in downtown Manhattan. I used to live in downtown San Francisco and between the streetcars, cable cars, hills, and the extraordinarily large homeless population, it feels far more chaotic in the denser areas.

NY by comparison is big, flat and orderly. I feel significantly safer as a pedestrian here than I ever did in SF. And it's a much more pleasant place to drive.

Ok. I am glad you feel safe as a pedestrian but what does all that have to do with autonomous vehicles. I am native to NYC. SFO has 800K people. NYC is literally 10x the size. Nice comparison.

My point was clear - NYC is a more orderly place for a car to operate.

What planet do you live on that you think NYC is more orderly than SFO? You sound very sheltered. Have you even been outside of Manhattan? Let alone above midtown? No one who spent a reasonable time outside of a bubble would say NYC is an orderly place. No one. Do you even drive? Have you driven across anywhere during rush hours? Why would you blatantly lie about a city being orderly when it can be easily refuted? 8M people live there to contest whatever you are saying.

So many questions, such little coherency.