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jmclnx ◴[] No.44983209[source]
>If Ofcom doesn't think this will be enough to prevent significant harm, it can even ask that ISPs be ordered to block UK access.

Well again I guess the UK never heard of VPNs, but they are trying to ban them still, it is like these pols have no clue how the internet works. They never learn these actions are like playing wack-a-mole.

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jeroenhd ◴[] No.44983487[source]
VPNs are next: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn438z3ejxyo
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sunrunner ◴[] No.44983915[source]
I’m curious about what the plan is to differentiate between legitimate business use and personal use of any kind. Age verification obviously won’t work for self-hosted, so does age verification then get pushed to VPS providers? And at that point, so what? I’m already paying with legitimate bank details for legitimate personal use.
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GeoAtreides ◴[] No.44984292[source]
do you think the public at large knows what VPS are? How to set up a VPN? the public at large barely understands the concept of files nowadays, if it's not app they're lost

banning selling VPN and VPN apps will solve 90% of the problem and that's enough

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xoa ◴[] No.44985083[source]
>do you think the public at large knows what VPS are? How to set up a VPN?

Do you think the general public NEEDS to know those things right now? Because that's what actually mostly drives what people put in the time to learn. This smug elitist "everyone is dumb except me the tech wizard" sort of comment shows up every such thread and it's deeply irksome. Most people are plenty intelligent and can easily learn things as trivial as setting up a VPN. For most that would just amount to "sign up for one of many turnkey services, install this app, scan this QR code" or even more commonly "ask one of the kids or techie person in circle of friends/neighbors to take care of it". All sorts of people working in a vast array of businesses use VPNs all the frickin' time, it's no big deal.

But there are endless such things in our lives and only so much time, so most people very reasonably triage and only put effort into things they enjoy personally or things they are forced to care about due to being important. Up until now, most people haven't needed to care in their personal lives, because they're satisfied enough with the fairly open internet experience we've had. If that changes, and it matters to them, the tools exist to easily deal with it and people will easily learn it.

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GeoAtreides ◴[] No.44985655[source]
It's not elitist to remark that people tech skills are atrophying. The zoomers literally have memes about how bad are at tech stuff.

Setting a VPN is 100% not trivial, I know that because I recently set up a wireguard vpn on a VPS. Not impossible, sure, but out of the reach for a normal person.

Sure, one can ask a techie friend (if one's has a techie friend capable of self-hosting a VPN). So now instead of the gov ban covering 90% of the population, it covers what? 85%? 80%?

All self-hosted tools will not make a difference. Selling turnkey tools will be banned.

You can't win against the government. Not in 2025.

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1. const_cast ◴[] No.44987702{6}[source]
I think there's a good chance that when normies have to upload a picture of their real life ID to watch a funny tiktok or read a tweet they might start looking into VPNs.

Right now most of the privacy violations are covert and everyone is dishonest. Nobody reads TOS or EULA, Google just say "pinky promise we're not mean!", etc.

But there's no way to automate scanning someone's face to view a Garfield comic.

Governments are getting far too cavalier. They're flying too close to the sun here. They've already gotten away with murder and then some, they should quit while they're ahead.

Their greed will be their downfall. People will eventually push back.