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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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411 points donpott | 9 comments | 22 Aug 25 10:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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sunshine-o ◴[22 Aug 25 10:15 UTC] No.44982749[source]▶
I assumed 4chan didn't exist anymore and it was renamed/replaced by another board... Great advertisement.

The UK acts like a madman on fire trying to attack everybody.

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Bender ◴[22 Aug 25 14:20 UTC] No.44985032[source]▶
In a way it does not exist any more. Most of the threads are started by 4chan-GPT yes this is a thing and most replies to threads are 4chan-GPT. They uses 4chan passes to allow proxies and not have to deal with a craptcha. Anyone could start their own chan, implement GPT bots and have the same level of popularity. I would wager a dozen HN'ers could implement this in a day. I think the goal on 4chan is controlling the narrative. My question would be, would HN'ers also use bots to control the narratives on their chans or create the same daily and weekly threads?
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1. gs17 ◴[22 Aug 25 15:06 UTC] No.44985528[source]▶
> yes this is a thing and most replies to threads are 4chan-GPT

Do you have proof of this?

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2. Bender ◴[22 Aug 25 15:40 UTC] No.44985918[source]▶
They bragged about it for a while but after the bragging stopped my proof is only anecdotal. When the United States Agency for International Development was defunded the bots went quiet and shortly thereafter the site was hacked using a vulnerability that had been well known since 2012. It was peaceful for a few weeks prior to the hack and for a couple weeks after the hack. Most of the fake racists disappeared from /pol/ and /g/ stopped shilling products. It was just real people and the site was just as active as the hundreds of other chans. Best I can tell 4chan is a test site to fine tune social manipulation GPT's. All the bots, fake racists and shillers are back now suggesting to me the manipulators started getting funded by other means. Before someone says it, there are a few real racists there too. The bots attract and egg them on. Most moved to 8chan. I think that is part of the experiment and tuning. Perhaps some day the veil will be lifted.
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3. bananalychee ◴[22 Aug 25 16:07 UTC] No.44986268[source]▶
If that's true you should be able to see that in the public traffic statistics.
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4. Bender ◴[22 Aug 25 16:09 UTC] No.44986295{3}[source]▶
I thought about that as well. This would be true if team-hiromoot is not cooperating with the bot owners, otherwise the bots could simply be excluded given all their traffic is authenticated with a 4chan pass. Other chans have manipulated their stats to change how active they appear so it's really hard for me to rely upon that.
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5. fiso64 ◴[22 Aug 25 16:21 UTC] No.44986435{4}[source]▶
At this point your hypothesis is unfalsifiable. I was on /g/ before and after the hack and didn't detect any big changes. It was as shitty as ever.
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6. Bender ◴[22 Aug 25 16:40 UTC] No.44986645{5}[source]▶
Yeah the only way I could really prove anything would be to fully own and operate the site, a task I would never take on. It might be interesting and educational for a day but without government immunity it would get risky fast.
7. Anon1096 ◴[22 Aug 25 16:51 UTC] No.44986781{4}[source]▶
There are non affiliated stat trackers like 4stats.io or any of the archive sites. It's pure nonsense/conspiracy theory to suggest everything is bot content now.
8. Lammy ◴[22 Aug 25 17:17 UTC] No.44987120[source]▶
> Best I can tell 4chan is a test site to fine tune social manipulation GPT's.

Almost certainly. Relevant donor tie from the Tiburon Trestle Trail Project https://imgur.com/a/3JAW9ku (2017)

9. hellojesus ◴[22 Aug 25 18:42 UTC] No.44988203{5}[source]▶
/g/ is really only good during aoc