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378 points todsacerdoti | 3 comments | 22 Aug 25 07:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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stanrivers ◴[22 Aug 25 13:11 UTC] No.44984234[source]▶
I’m scared for what happens ten years from now when none of the junior folk ever learned to write code themselves and now think they are senior engineers…
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pydry ◴[22 Aug 25 13:32 UTC] No.44984478[source]▶
Hopefully theyll all become plumbers or schoolteachers or something.

There's a glut of junior dev talent and not enough real problems out there which a junior can apply themselves to.

This means that most of them simply arent able to get the kind of experience which will push them into the next skill bracket.

It used to be that you could use them to build cheap proofs of concept or self contained scripting but those are things AI doesnt actually suck too badly at. Even back then there were too many juniors and not enough roles though.

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1. bigfishrunning ◴[22 Aug 25 14:34 UTC] No.44985188[source]▶
There's a glut of "talent", but most of them are attracted by the inflated paycheck and aren't actually talented. In the past, they would either get promoted to middle management where they can't do any damage, or burn out and find another career. Now they can fake it long enough to sink your company, and then move on (with experience on their resume!) to their next victim. Things are gonna be really ugly in 10 years.
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2. slipperydippery ◴[22 Aug 25 15:04 UTC] No.44985512[source]▶
I'm fairly confident there's going to be no shortage of work for programmers who actually halfway know what they're doing for the remainder of my career (another 20ish years, probably), at least. So that's nice.

Though cleaning up garbage fires isn't exactly fun. Gonna need to raise my rates.

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3. blooalien ◴[22 Aug 25 21:10 UTC] No.44989855[source]▶
> Though cleaning up garbage fires isn't exactly fun. Gonna need to raise my rates.

This is what I did way back when I was a professional web designer. Cleaning up nasty "tag-soup" DreamWeaver and MS Word websites for folks cost extra compared to my normal rates for just building them a fresh "from-scratch" website.