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4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

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411 points donpott | 8 comments | 22 Aug 25 10:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.457s | source | bottom
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nickdothutton ◴[22 Aug 25 12:15 UTC] No.44983582[source]▶
Step 1, pass law.

Step 2, demand compliance.

Step 3, upon not hearing of compliance, levy fines.

Step 4, upon non payment of fines, declare in breach of (2).

Step 5, block site from UK using DNS, in the same manner as torrent sites etc.

5 was always the goal, 2 to 4 are largely just performative.

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username332211 ◴[22 Aug 25 12:34 UTC] No.44983781[source]▶
How does step 5 work? Switching DNS servers is trivial.
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1. supriyo-biswas ◴[22 Aug 25 14:29 UTC] No.44985122[source]▶
DNS poisoning and rejection of TLS handshakes based on SNI.
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2. aaomidi ◴[22 Aug 25 14:45 UTC] No.44985299[source]▶
This is why I’m really pissed off at how long ECH has taken.

And it’s all because of corporate interests at IETF.

3. LexiMax ◴[22 Aug 25 14:50 UTC] No.44985356[source]▶
That's one domain down. Only 3,524 domains that just cropped up yesterday to go.

Never mind the fact that doing a Google search will surface pages on various wikis, git repositories, and other sites that conveniently list all of the mirrors.

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4. HDThoreaun ◴[22 Aug 25 16:35 UTC] No.44986585[source]▶
Big enough barrier to stop most users
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5. worewood ◴[22 Aug 25 17:16 UTC] No.44987100[source]▶
Encrypted Client Hello and DNS over HTTPS.
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6. supriyo-biswas ◴[22 Aug 25 18:17 UTC] No.44987829[source]▶
Drop all ECH TLS connections, as China does.
7. LexiMax ◴[22 Aug 25 19:06 UTC] No.44988536{3}[source]▶
Most users default to search engines instead of typing in a URL. I searched for "pirate bay" just now and all of the top results are mirrors or lists of mirrors.
8. themafia ◴[22 Aug 25 20:23 UTC] No.44989375[source]▶
Creating the "Great Firewall of the UK" without actually calling it that: Priceless.