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DeepSeek-v3.1

(api-docs.deepseek.com)
776 points wertyk | 3 comments | 21 Aug 25 19:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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rsanek ◴[22 Aug 25 03:30 UTC] No.44980753[source]▶
Looks to be the ~same intelligence as gpt-oss-120B, but about 10x slower and 3x more expensive?

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v3-1-reasoning

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easygenes ◴[22 Aug 25 07:16 UTC] No.44981789[source]▶
Other benchmark aggregates are less favorable to GPT-OSS-120B: https://arxiv.org/abs/2508.12461
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petesergeant ◴[22 Aug 25 09:29 UTC] No.44982519[source]▶
With all these things, it depends on your own eval suite. gpt-oss-120b works as well as o4-mini over my evals, which means I can run it via OpenRouter on Cerebras where it's SO DAMN FAST and like 1/5th the price of o4-mini.
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indigodaddy ◴[22 Aug 25 12:27 UTC] No.44983709[source]▶
How would you compare gpt-oss-120b to (for coding):

Qwen3-Coder-480B-A35B-Instruct

GLM4.5 Air

Kimi K2

DeepSeek V3 0324 / R1 0528

GPT-5 Mini

Thanks for any feedback!

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1. petesergeant ◴[22 Aug 25 13:40 UTC] No.44984580[source]▶
I’m afraid I don’t use any of those for coding
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2. bigyabai ◴[22 Aug 25 18:04 UTC] No.44987662[source]▶
You're missing out. GLM 4.5 Air and Qwen3 A3B both blow OSS 120B out of the water in my experience.
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3. indigodaddy ◴[22 Aug 25 18:13 UTC] No.44987765[source]▶
Ah good to hear! How about Qwen3-Coder-480B-A35B-Instruct? I believe that is the free Qwen3-coder model on openrouter