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DeepSeek-v3.1

(api-docs.deepseek.com)
776 points wertyk | 2 comments | 21 Aug 25 19:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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rsanek ◴[22 Aug 25 03:30 UTC] No.44980753[source]▶
Looks to be the ~same intelligence as gpt-oss-120B, but about 10x slower and 3x more expensive?

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v3-1-reasoning

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okasaki ◴[22 Aug 25 07:05 UTC] No.44981737[source]▶
My experience is that gpt-oss doesn't know much about obscure topics, so if you're using it for anything except puzzles or coding in popular languages, it won't do well as the bigger models.

It's knowledge seems to be lacking even compared to gpt3.

No idea how you'd benchmark this though.

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1. xadhominemx ◴[22 Aug 25 13:08 UTC] No.44984205[source]▶
> My experience is that gpt-oss doesn't know much about obscure topics

That is the point of these small models. Remove the bloat of obscure information (address that with RAG), leaving behind a core “reasoning” skeleton.

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2. okasaki ◴[22 Aug 25 13:46 UTC] No.44984641[source]▶
Yeah I guess. Just wanted to say the size difference might be accounted for by the model knowing more.

Seems more user-friendly to bake it in.