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    4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

    (www.bbc.co.uk)
    411 points donpott | 22 comments | 22 Aug 25 10:02 UTC | HN request time: 1.118s | source | bottom
    1. fruitworks ◴[22 Aug 25 12:44 UTC] No.44983902[source]▶
    I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand.

    4chan got hacked a while back because they were running a totally outdated software stack. It's been pretty much abandoned by its owner hiromoot.

    If they aren't going to update the site for basic maintainance, they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap.

    I suppose a resistance to change is good when your competitors are burying their own graves.

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    2. OgsyedIE ◴[22 Aug 25 13:23 UTC] No.44984365[source]▶
    If the owner doesn't care about it and it's got such a strong network effect, what's stopping somebody from buying it and implementing the SomethingAwful monetization model, where it's free until you get banned and then $10 for every unbanning?
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    3. lm28469 ◴[22 Aug 25 14:34 UTC] No.44985180[source]▶
    You can ban 75% of the web if your concern is outdated tech stacks and/or data breaches
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    4. zahlman ◴[22 Aug 25 14:56 UTC] No.44985410[source]▶
    > I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand.... they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap.

    I read this as a plain contradiction.

    > they were running a totally outdated software stack.

    And this as a convenient pretense.

    5. Gud ◴[22 Aug 25 14:59 UTC] No.44985450[source]▶
    75%? Are you being generous because it's weekend?
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    6. sokka_h2otribe ◴[22 Aug 25 15:18 UTC] No.44985677[source]▶
    I think they're saying that 4chan is not responding bc there is limited people at the helm, not that the UK gov is upset at their security.
    7. oceansky ◴[22 Aug 25 15:34 UTC] No.44985861[source]▶
    I laughed at hiromoot. Very clever nickname
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    8. bananalychee ◴[22 Aug 25 15:50 UTC] No.44986047[source]▶
    If that were the case I'd expect them to block UK IPs (or ignore the threats entirely) rather than fighting it legally.
    9. lupusreal ◴[22 Aug 25 15:50 UTC] No.44986056[source]▶
    Nobody besides Hiroshima Moot is dumb enough to buy 4chan.
    10. caesil ◴[22 Aug 25 15:56 UTC] No.44986115[source]▶
    I wonder what they're going to do when the states mandating age verification for pornographic content start coming for them.

    Very similar to these dystopian foreign laws. But because they're US states 4chan will not be able to use the "we only recognize US law" defense.

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    11. sillysaurusx ◴[22 Aug 25 15:58 UTC] No.44986135[source]▶
    I know moot, but what’s the hiro part mean?
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    12. mostlysimilar ◴[22 Aug 25 16:18 UTC] No.44986402{3}[source]▶
    A Japanese man named Nishimura Hiroyuki bought and now owns 4chan. It's a mashup of their names.
    13. sejje ◴[22 Aug 25 16:24 UTC] No.44986469{3}[source]▶
    Agreed--if the concern is data breaches, we can just ban 100% of databases, even those offline.

    If it's outdated tech stacks, I'm sometimes in favor of those. Move fast and break things isn't always the best.

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    14. Tade0 ◴[22 Aug 25 16:52 UTC] No.44986802{4}[source]▶
    That's not an outdated stack - just a stable one.

    An outdated stack is a not-up-to-date version of Wordpress I foolishly set up because it was the last one compatible with a certain plugin used by a client on their website that I was recreating from the Wayback Machine.

    The domain was put on a black list of dangerous sites (rightfully so, considering that the bot that hacked into it replaced the site with spam).

    15. Hamuko ◴[22 Aug 25 17:34 UTC] No.44987300[source]▶
    I think he enjoys the revenue it generates, not actually running the site.
    16. Hamuko ◴[22 Aug 25 17:35 UTC] No.44987311{3}[source]▶
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuki_Nishimura

    >Users on 4chan refer to him commonly as 'hiro' but also by the ethnic slur "gook moot", or the nickname "Jackie 4chan", "Hiroshima Nagasaki," or simply "hiroshimoot".

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    17. uyzstvqs ◴[22 Aug 25 18:49 UTC] No.44988305[source]▶
    4chan got hacked because of some outdated dependency used for uploading PDF files, which was some obscure feature only available to some boards. The actual website does get maintained.
    18. Hikikomori ◴[22 Aug 25 20:16 UTC] No.44989292[source]▶
    The latest Steam and visa/Mastercard debacle has the project2025 head behind it. They want to make pork illegal in the US as well.
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    19. soraminazuki ◴[23 Aug 25 00:42 UTC] No.44991780{4}[source]▶
    That's kind of misleading because it lists hiroshimoot alongside blatantly racist nicknames. But hiroshimoot simply appears to be the names of two people mixed together.
    20. verzali ◴[23 Aug 25 04:35 UTC] No.44993193{3}[source]▶
    Pork? Why?
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    21. geoffpado ◴[23 Aug 25 08:03 UTC] No.44994210{4}[source]▶
    Typo/autocorrect of “porn”, presumably.
    22. sim7c00 ◴[24 Aug 25 06:54 UTC] No.45001968{4}[source]▶
    its haram :p