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neilv ◴[] No.44976959[source]
There is also IP taint when using "AI". We're just pretending that there's not.

If someone came to you and said "good news: I memorized the code of all the open source projects in this space, and can regurgitate it on command", you would be smart to ban them from working on code at your company.

But with "AI", we make up a bunch of rationalizations. ("I'm doing AI agentic generative AI workflow boilerplate 10x gettin it done AI did I say AI yet!")

And we pretend the person never said that they're just loosely laundering GPL and other code in a way that rightly would be existentially toxic to an IP-based company.

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ineedasername ◴[] No.44977317[source]
Courts (at least in the US) have already ruled that use of ingested data for training is transformative. There’s lots of details to figure, but the genie is out of the bottle.

Sure it’s a big hill to climb in rethinking IP laws to align with a societal desire that generating IP continue to be a viable economic work product, but that is what’s necessary.

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Hamuko ◴[] No.44978041[source]
Training an AI model is not the same as using an AI model.
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ryukoposting ◴[] No.44978887[source]
Publishing pirated copies of books on libgen isn't the same as downloading pirated copies of books from libgen. Neither is legal.
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1. eru ◴[] No.44979786{3}[source]
In many places that's a fairly recent development: publishing pirated IP used to be much more of a legal problem than consuming it.

Also publishing pirated IP without any monetary gain to yourself also used to be treated more leniently.

Of course, all the rules were changed (both in law and in interpretation in practice) as file sharing became a huge deal about two decades ago.

Details depend on jurisdiction.