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Bank forced to rehire workers after lying about chatbot productivity, union says

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308 points ndsipa_pomu | 1 comments | 21 Aug 25 15:58 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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guywithahat[dead post] ◴[21 Aug 25 17:21 UTC] No.44975467[source]▶
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blackguardx ◴[21 Aug 25 17:30 UTC] No.44975590[source]▶
I grew up in the rust belt. I've never heard of anyone leaving to "escape unions" but rather there just being not many jobs, lots of historic pollution to deal with, and a poor future economic outlook.

Why were unions specifically to blame for your family leaving?

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guywithahat ◴[21 Aug 25 18:15 UTC] No.44976160[source]▶
> but rather there just being not many jobs, lots of historic pollution to deal with, and a poor future economic outlook

I have never seen someone leave due to pollution, other than just wanting to leave the city.

The poor economic outlook and lack of jobs is directly due to the unions. If there weren't unions, Detroit and Flint would still be the capital of the auto industry, and Erie PA would still be a major locamotive hub. Instead everyone was forced out because of the unions.

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blackguardx ◴[21 Aug 25 18:37 UTC] No.44976418[source]▶
I lived in Erie and Cleveland for a while. There are non-union shops all around and the locomotive business in Erie was owned by a declining company (GE) that divested it in a fire sale along with many other parts of their business due to too much reliance on financial engineering and not real engineering.
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1. guywithahat ◴[21 Aug 25 20:10 UTC] No.44977453{3}[source]▶
Locomotives have generally been on the rise for the past few decades, and have generally been profitable. Erie also had a strong union presence in terms of locomotive production, particularly with the UE. What happened in Erie was protesters in one shop would walk over to the nearby building to protest and stop more work, so they had to move facilities away from each other to reduce the union impact. Engine production was moved to Grove city, and (now wabtec) built their new, larger facility in Forth Worth, where many of the suppliers moved.

Not only is US freight traffic up, but freight traffic around the world went up as nations industrialized and raw material demands went up in places like Australia. Erie should have had its second coming, but instead everyone has seen what the UE did to the industry and workers don't want to work in union shops, and so the cities population has almost halved since its peak.

I'm not as familiar with Cleveland so I can't really speak on it.