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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

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1163 points DaveZale | 1 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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max_ ◴[02 Aug 25 19:46 UTC] No.44770751[source]▶
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

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dilyevsky ◴[02 Aug 25 22:03 UTC] No.44772000[source]▶
The real reason is Finnish absolutely draconian fines that scale up with income and really really strict enforcement. Make fines start with $500 and go to thousands and actually enforce them and not what SF is doing and we'll have the same but people over here don't like to hear it...
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crote ◴[03 Aug 25 11:17 UTC] No.44775778[source]▶
How are the fines "draconian"? Everyone is fined the same when measured in time.

If someone making minimum wage ($7/hour) gets a 30 year sentence for murder, should Jeff Bezos ($1,000,000/hour) be able to get out of jail for the same offense after only 110 minutes?

If recklessly speeding costs the same as a cup of coffee, how is the fine supposed to act as a deterrent?

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1. dilyevsky ◴[03 Aug 25 18:36 UTC] No.44778631[source]▶
Arguing semantics here. Over here they fine you very little to relative average income. The fines in sf are exactly same as in the middle of nowhere because they are mostly set at state level