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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

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1163 points DaveZale | 3 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0.612s | source
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Nurbek-F ◴[02 Aug 25 02:58 UTC] No.44764571[source]▶
Someone has to put a chart near it, describing the decline in driving in the city. When you're limited to 30kmh, you might as well get a scooter...
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connicpu ◴[02 Aug 25 20:10 UTC] No.44770955[source]▶
Great, scooters are much less likely to kill pedestrians during collisions. I'm glad more people who didn't actually need 2 ton metal boxes are downsizing to something more practical.
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ARandomerDude[dead post] ◴[02 Aug 25 20:27 UTC] No.44771112[source]▶
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ath3nd ◴[02 Aug 25 20:48 UTC] No.44771317[source]▶
> Make it hard for people to have families and society will collapse

I used to live in Amsterdam which has a great public transport, great cycling paths, and limits of 30km/h. People are going cycling to school, on dates, and picnic with their families. Associating having a 3 ton gas guzzler as a prerequisite of having a family and a roadblock of "society" is only a question of poor imagination.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/six-health-lessons-learn-net...

There are multiple reasons Americans are obese as hell and living shorter than us Europeans, and driving everywhere is one of it.

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SoftTalker ◴[02 Aug 25 21:18 UTC] No.44771586[source]▶
Some areas such as Amsterdam though are just naturally more ammenable to walking, cycling, and transit. Cycling in 90+ (F) temperatures with high humidity (very common in the summer in the US midwest or south), or even just walking very far or waiting very long for a bus is pretty miserable. I'd arrive at my destination literally dripping with sweat and really unpresentable.
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Muromec ◴[02 Aug 25 22:10 UTC] No.44772052[source]▶
Somehow Singapore being 1 degree from the Equator manages to have a bus network, a metro and practically caps the amount of cars on the roads.

Also, you seems to underestimate how bad the weather in Amsterdam is. Cycling on a bridge through rain against the wind at 5 degrees (C) isn't very fun either.

When I lived in a more hotter climate, 30ish (C) was a-okay for some people to cycle to work and then get a shower at work. It's all about infrastructure really --- be it showers, speed limits or bike paths.

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1. SoftTalker ◴[03 Aug 25 16:21 UTC] No.44777613[source]▶
That’s ok if you have showers at work. I’ve never worked anywhere that had that. And now you’re taking multiple showers a day, and washing sweat-soaked clothes more often, using more water. If you are a person who doesn’t tend to sweat a lot it might work out. For me, I sweat profusely and would literally be dripping on the floor and my saturated clothing clinging to me after a bike ride on a hot day.
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2. ath3nd ◴[03 Aug 25 17:36 UTC] No.44778208[source]▶
Can I interest you in AC cooled public transport then? That is another option that will make it easier and faster for you to reach your destination than a car.

Besides I am not sure if you are willing to drop 7.50 EUR per hour for parking in the center. Most companies in Amsterdam have none or only limited spots for parking anyway.

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3. SoftTalker ◴[03 Aug 25 18:13 UTC] No.44778459[source]▶
I lived in Chicago, took public transport to work. Still a 15 minute walk from train to office and I’d be sweaty by then on a hot day.

My solution was move to a small town where it’s easy to drive to work. Getting around in large dense cities sucks no matter how you do it.