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max_ ◴[] No.44770751[source]
"More than half of Helsinki’s streets now have speed limits of 30 km/h."

This is the only secret.

People over speeding is what kills.

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enaaem ◴[] No.44772231[source]
They did the same thing in Amsterdam. There were a lot complaints at the beginning, but the city became much nicer in the end. Immediate improvement was the reduction of noise. Studies have shown that there was only a 5% increase of travel time. For example, that would be 1 minute on a 20 minute trip. That is because the largest determinant of average speed are the intersections and not the maximum speed limit.
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kqr ◴[] No.44774835[source]
You notice this quickly when cycling in cities. Cars take forever to safely negotiate their way through intersections thanks to their size.
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1. jeroenhd ◴[] No.44775895[source]
I notice this from within a car as well. Cars take forever and waste so much space taking turns, merging, switching lanes. The issue seems to grow exponentially with vehicle size as well; nippy small cars turn and navigate a lot better compared to American genital compensation trucks.