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Helsinki records zero traffic deaths for full year

(www.helsinkitimes.fi)
1163 points DaveZale | 4 comments | 30 Jul 25 16:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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Nurbek-F ◴[02 Aug 25 02:58 UTC] No.44764571[source]▶
Someone has to put a chart near it, describing the decline in driving in the city. When you're limited to 30kmh, you might as well get a scooter...
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thomascountz ◴[02 Aug 25 08:05 UTC] No.44765653[source]▶
A 30 km/h limit and decline in driving means zero people have to die. If enforcing scooters meant zero people have to die, I'm not sure what the objection is, truly.
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1. hsdvw ◴[02 Aug 25 19:49 UTC] No.44770779[source]▶
Maybe enforce pedestrian crossings instead. Zero deaths without annoying anybody.
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2. 9dev ◴[02 Aug 25 20:05 UTC] No.44770920[source]▶
They had pedestrian crossings already, and that was not the deciding factor. It was the speed limit that kept people alive.

If people like you getting annoyed by having to drive slower is the price for just one person not dying in traffic, that’s already a win in my book.

3. perching_aix ◴[02 Aug 25 20:30 UTC] No.44771145[source]▶
Do you think people rightfully crossing crosswalks never get hit, or do you include the cars in the equation too? What about every other type traffic accident that could be prevented from being fatal by just lowering the speed?
4. zahlman ◴[03 Aug 25 06:46 UTC] No.44774599[source]▶
It takes almost no effort to find stories like https://globalnews.ca/news/10986468/robie-street-halifax-ped... .

(For reference, Halifax, Nova Scotia is maybe a quarter of the size of Helsinki.)