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280 points dargscisyhp | 2 comments | 02 Aug 25 06:28 UTC | HN request time: 0.414s | source
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francasso ◴[02 Aug 25 09:09 UTC] No.44765919[source]▶
Maybe it's time to move to Europe or China
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numbers_guy ◴[02 Aug 25 09:18 UTC] No.44765967[source]▶
There is nowhere to run and hide. Europe is worse than the US on this front. China also demands party loyalty. In a sense this is just the human condition. The ruling faction demands loyalty. Only a very advanced human civilization could move past that and allow criticism of the ruling class. Maybe the US had achieved that for a brief movement in the past or maybe it was just an illusion.

EDIT: For people wondering why I think it's worse in Europe, it's because in Europe the ruling class and the universities are on the same side. And when I say Europe, I mean UK, France and Germany.

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1. lawn ◴[02 Aug 25 10:44 UTC] No.44766458[source]▶
> why I think it's worse in Europe, it's because in Europe the ruling class and the universities are on the same side

Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

> And when I say Europe, I mean UK, France and Germany.

Europe is much larger and more diverse than those three countries. Scandinavia for example consistently top the list in most well-being statistics.

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2. ben_w ◴[02 Aug 25 12:20 UTC] No.44766998[source]▶
> Sounds like a feature, not a bug.

In fairness, it can be either, and which it is depends if in the specific case it's more accurate to phrase it as "the ruling classes are on the side of the universities" (good) or as "the universities are on the side of the ruling class" (bad).