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280 points dargscisyhp | 11 comments | | HN request time: 0.212s | source | bottom
1. Havoc ◴[] No.44766080[source]
>on the grounds that UCLA was “failing to promote a research environment free of antisemitism and bias”

This really has very Germany 1930s vibes even if the direction of the anti is flipped.

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2. kergonath ◴[] No.44766257[source]
It is purely Orwellian. They gaslit everyone into thinking that opposing an intolerant theocracy in Israel, and by extension the burgeoning autocracy in the US, was antisemitism, while at the same time moaning about Jews controlling and ruining the US. This naked cynicism is disgusting.
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3. jkhdigital ◴[] No.44766426[source]
Intolerant theocracy? And you’re using this phrase to refer to Israel?
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4. qcnguy ◴[] No.44766512[source]
Flipping the direction isn't some minor detail. That "flip" was the reason for the Allies to fight the second world war! The universities implement Nazi-like policies in which they try to keep Jews out illegally, others fought against them. If you aren't sure which side are in the wrong here, you need to ask yourself if it's yours.
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5. aledue ◴[] No.44766711[source]
Would you have said the same about universities illegally keeping out Nazis, if the Allies had supported their genocide of the Jews?
6. aaomidi ◴[] No.44767150{3}[source]
State sponsor of genocide might be a more apt term, I agree. Intolerant is way too weak of a term.
7. aaomidi ◴[] No.44767155[source]
Where are they keeping out Jewish people? Extraordinary claims and all that
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8. qcnguy ◴[] No.44767989{3}[source]
Wow that's not at all extraordinary. That's the core of the reason they're paying giant fines. The Ivy Leagues have for years been using admission policies that are designed to reduce the number of Jews, Asians and whites they admit. It's always been illegal but the Democrat administrations never enforced the law because they liked what the colleges were doing. Now there's a new administration that doesn't and wants them to stop. That's the whole story behind what happening, I thought it was well known but apparently there are people who didn't get the story so far?
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9. avoutos ◴[] No.44769963[source]
What is more 1930s Germany were the checkpoints and human-chains set up around UCLA to limit the movement of Jews around campus.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-09/are-you-...

All UCLA has to do is strike up a deal with the gov't that presumably entails eliminating affirmative action and preventing pro-Hamas factions from taking hold of the university.

Columbia made a deal and they have their funding back now.

10. aaomidi ◴[] No.44771822{4}[source]
Do you have proof from any source? Trump admin does not count. Literally any independent research body that says there was a systemic effort to bar Jewish people in these institutions?
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11. qcnguy ◴[] No.44799156{5}[source]
Their own internal documents. Am on phone so won't Google all this for you but the idea it's some vague allegation isn't true. They're not even trying to defend themselves on that ground because they mostly admitted to it in public already. Their defence is that they feel they should be able to do it, not that they didn't.