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Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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280 points dargscisyhp | 6 comments | 02 Aug 25 06:28 UTC | HN request time: 2.324s | source | bottom
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HSO ◴[02 Aug 25 09:07 UTC] No.44765906[source]▶
all the best people are going to move to china anyway

stop rearranging chairs on the deck of a sinking ship and move on terence

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1. spwa4 ◴[02 Aug 25 09:15 UTC] No.44765955[source]▶
Really? The situation in China (and Europe, for that matter) is far worse. Obviously Europe is much better than China for academics, but the US is still miles above that. So sorry, that won't happen. This will "just" disappear, with no replacement.
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2. lars_francke ◴[02 Aug 25 09:24 UTC] No.44765997[source]▶
In which way is the situation far worse in Europe?
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3. davrosthedalek ◴[02 Aug 25 10:05 UTC] No.44766246[source]▶
Funding levels are lower. Salaries are lower. In physics, from the places I know in the US, about half of the faculty is foreign, and about 30% is German. This is at top universities. That wouldn't be the case if these people would find similar conditions in Europe. But it can change quickly.
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4. Hnrobert42 ◴[02 Aug 25 10:20 UTC] No.44766331{3}[source]▶
Hard to argue it's lower than zero. Not to mention that low and consistent is better than moderate but at the whim of a tyrant.
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5. davrosthedalek ◴[02 Aug 25 10:26 UTC] No.44766366{4}[source]▶
Funding is always a lottery. It's not like everyone gets some, but it's less. It's more that less people get funds. So you really have to look at the average.

But you are right. That's why I said: can change quickly.

6. SalmoShalazar ◴[02 Aug 25 11:39 UTC] No.44766791[source]▶
What are you even talking about? Pure American exceptionalism. Take a look at this and think about what it means: https://www.nature.com/nature-index/research-leaders/2025/in...