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constantcrying ◴[] No.44725147[source]
Much of the west is getting older and getting sicker. How unsurprising.

What even is the solution? Expand the already massive healthcare sector further? Where does the money for that come from?

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FigurativeVoid ◴[] No.44725495[source]
I have thought that we should make entering the medical professions much easier. In order to become a nurse, you usually need a 4 year degree. This has two issues:

1. This is way to much time in the classroom. Much of that coursework simply isn't necessary.

2. You have people that would be good nurses piking other programs because they can't get passing marks in classes that are irrelevant to day to day nursing.

Binding what are essentially professional programs to the academy is a mistake. Don't get me wrong, I love the academy. But we need nurses.

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evoloution ◴[] No.44725705[source]
So are you hoping to be treated by nurses who are worse academically than the ones we have now? Or are you hoping that "others" will be treated by them while increased supply depresses wages for the good ones that you think will treat you? Also being a nurse is a very hard job, most people wouldn't last a year as an ER nurse in the US.
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s1artibartfast ◴[] No.44726127[source]
how much worse were nurses when it was a 2 years occupational program or associates degree?
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1. nradov ◴[] No.44727981[source]
Huh? There have been multiple levels of nursing for many decades, probably longer than you've been alive. At the lowest level a CNA or LPN doesn't even need an Associate's Degree.

https://www.usa.edu/blog/levels-of-nursing-explained/

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2. s1artibartfast ◴[] No.44729851[source]
Have you looked at proportions over time?

In the 1980s 55% of registered nurses were working with diploma. It is down to 6% today. Bachelors or greater was 27% and is now over 70% today.

As your link points out, many states are continually raising the bar and many have already moved to a BSN minimum.

I'm probably dating myself, but there was a time when people started working occupational nursing programs while in high school and were licensed a few years later.

https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/12956/chapter/9#186