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Why MIT switched from Scheme to Python (2009)

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MontyCarloHall ◴[25 Jul 25 17:23 UTC] No.44685710[source]▶
Isn't this just part of the broader trend of CS departments switching away from teaching computer science to teaching computer engineering, which in turn is part of the more general trend of colleges becoming more vocational?

LISP dialects like Scheme are excellent for teaching pure computer science because they are the closest thing to executing lambda calculus expressions. Whereas Python is excellent for teaching applied computer engineering, because it's essentially executable pseudocode for imperative languages, and imperative languages are the most common language a computer engineer encounters in the real world.

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SoftTalker ◴[25 Jul 25 17:31 UTC] No.44685819[source]▶
Yes. One of the biggest complaints that computer science departments used to get from students is that they weren't learning any languages that employers are using.
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cess11 ◴[25 Jul 25 17:43 UTC] No.44685967[source]▶
I'm not so sure someone who's good with Scheme will be bad with Python or Java.

On the contrary, I suspect that such a person is likely to be better suited to build software in either of the latter two.

I also suspect that Python is not a particularly good first language for someone who aims for a professional career building software.

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1. icedchai ◴[25 Jul 25 20:31 UTC] No.44688065[source]▶
When I went to university in the 90's, Scheme was used in a couple of early courses. I had already learned C and Java on my own, but greatly enjoyed how Scheme made me think about problems differently. (I didn't learn Python until much later when I was out of school.)

As long as students are exposed to multiple languages, I think starting w/Python is fine. Every language has its issues.