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blindriver ◴[] No.44658043[source]
This is why I’m not moving off Windows 10. I’d rather move to MacOS than Windows 11 and if they force me I’ll do it.
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deadbabe ◴[] No.44658051[source]
Why not Linux?
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ubermonkey ◴[] No.44658087[source]
I'm not who you asked, but the reason I migrated to Macs years ago, and the reason I stay, is that I don't want my computer to be a maintenance hobby unto itself. I need to do actual work.

I also enjoy the polish Apple provides in other ways -- the platform features you get if you're on a Mac, use an iPhone, have a Watch, etc, are all pretty great. Cobbling together something like that on my own under Linux probably isn't possible.

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1. Moomoomoo309 ◴[] No.44658153[source]
Linux isn't a maintenance hobby unto itself if you don't make it one. After the initial migration struggles (which you'll get on MacOS too), if you choose a boring distro like Debian, the maintenance burden is similar to Windows. Lots of Linux users love customizing the crap out of their stuff, so it becomes one, but it isn't inherently like that if you keep your configuration somewhat close to stock on whatever distro you use. (I've also heard good things about immutable distros for that, since if something doesn't work, you can just rollback and it will work again)
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2. nicoburns ◴[] No.44658267[source]
It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop. At which point you're either using FOSS alternatives (and dealing with it's incompatibilities with the proprietary file formats) or dealing with a very fragile wine setup.

If you don't need that kind of thing then Linux is indeed pretty good these days. But especially in a business context, a lot of people do.

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3. lagniappe ◴[] No.44658594[source]
> It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop

I run both of those on Linux, with no trouble. Who told you this?

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4. 65 ◴[] No.44659171[source]
Are you seriously suggesting someone new to Linux use Debian, one of the most annoying distros to set up for desktop use?

I used Linux Mint for about a year and gave up because everything was constantly breaking and the software was a direct downgrade from MacOS in terms of usability and prevalence. Oh, and new hardware usually doesn't even work on Linux.

Linux is like Communism, sounds great in theory but in reality it doesn't work.

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5. chromiummmm ◴[] No.44659549[source]
What's so hard about debian to set up?
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6. chromiummmm ◴[] No.44659563{3}[source]
How do you run ms office on Linux?
7. poulpy123 ◴[] No.44659703[source]
> Linux is like Communism, sounds great in theory but in reality it doesn't work.

Man I'm using windows and defending it's usage in this very thread but that's totally stupid

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8. ubermonkey ◴[] No.44660115[source]
"Similar to Windows" is not a great rec, IMO.
9. 65 ◴[] No.44660553{3}[source]
Care to explain why you think this analogy is stupid?
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10. 65 ◴[] No.44660635{3}[source]
Besides having to boot from an ISO and the arduous process of installing Linux in general compared to not having to do this with MacOS or Windows, hardware compatibility is by far the most annoying part of Linux desktop. Want to use a new laptop to run Linux? Well it probably will have a bunch of hardware issues you need to monkey patch.

It appears a site for software engineers can get lost in the sauce with the concept of something being "easy" - but Linux absolutely will never take off if it's a pain in the ass for the average computer user to install and use.

11. poulpy123 ◴[] No.44661383{4}[source]
because whatever you think of communism, linux is not an ideology and it works very well
12. sdoering ◴[] No.44661443{4}[source]
Let me quote the guidelines:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously

> Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative.

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

> Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Well - I think this should start to cover it.

13. qwerpy ◴[] No.44663198{3}[source]
I've been waiting for years for an acceptable way to run Onenote on Linux. The browser does not count, it fetches pages on demand and is painfully slow. There are some wrappers around the browser, those don't count either. Running a Windows VM is unacceptable. People don't have success running it through Wine so I'm not going to try.

Why do I have to use Onenote? It's free. It syncs well with other computers and mobile apps. Sharing notebooks with other people works and is free. It's intuitive enough that my wife can use it. The search works, the formatting is rich enough, you can paste in pictures.

I don't need the rest of Office. The online versions or Google docs are good enough. If I can get Onenote and Fusion360 working well on Linux, I would likely switch to Linux.