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1. jadamson ◴[] No.44657903[source]
I'm curious about the last paragraph relating to Signal. How, exactly, have Brave managed this without also blocking screenshots? Is there a flag Signal missed?
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2. Svip ◴[] No.44657929[source]
According to the same paragraph, it's because Signal isn't a "browser app":

> Given that Windows doesn’t let non-browser apps granularly disable Recall, Signal cleverly uses the DRM flag on their app to disable all screenshots.

(emphasis mine)

Apparently, Microsoft consider browsers special:

> While it’s heartening that Microsoft recognizes that Web browsers are especially privacy-sensitive applications, we hope they offer the same granular ability to turn off Recall to all privacy-minded application developers.

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3. robin_reala ◴[] No.44657931[source]
Microsoft specifically allows software in the category “browsers” to disable Recall.
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4. eviks ◴[] No.44657951[source]
How is this category defined? Can an app resister itself as a browser?
5. jadamson ◴[] No.44657960[source]
Oops. Yeah, I shouldn't have missed that.

Still, does this mean Microsoft maintains an approved browser list for this? Would the various other less-known Chromium/Firefox forks be unable to take advantage of the same thing?

Edit: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/recall/recall-w...

> To make sure that Recall doesn't save your user's browsing history while in modes like this, your app can use the SetInputScope function, setting the input scope to IS_PASSWORD.

> Your app must also have a http or https protocol handler registered before SetInputScope will support the behavior described in this article.

I now wonder if you can register a handler that never gets used since you won't be the default browser (and if you do end up as the default somehow, warn the user when called).

6. aleph_minus_one ◴[] No.44658072[source]
> Microsoft specifically allows software in the category “browsers” to disable Recall.

1. "Browser" does not mean "web browser": many kinds of applications can be considered a browser.

2. Even if you identify "browser" with "web browser": Electron apps are basically (web) browsers (though not fully functional ones). Nobody claimed said for a software to be in the "browser" category, it has to be a fully functional web browser.

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7. dotancohen ◴[] No.44659306{3}[source]
How does the OS know that foobar application is a [[fully functional] web] browser?
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8. delfinom ◴[] No.44660578{4}[source]
It doesn't. Windows is just checking if there's a protocol handler entry in the registry for http/https.

In theory you don't abuse that because it will come up as a possible browser option for users. :shrug:

9. skaul ◴[] No.44660961[source]
(disclaimer: I lead privacy at Brave and wrote the article)

Windows lets browser apps (more technically, apps that have an `http` or `https` protocol handler registered) to use `SetInputScope` function to set `IS_PRIVATE` for a window. We were able to use that and have it apply for all Brave windows, and thus granularly turn off Recall without affecting non-Recall screen readers or screenshot capabilities.

Signal doesn't have protocol handlers for `http` and `https`, so it can't do the same.