Ozzy Osbourne has died

Kinda funny that after everything he did Parkinsons was what got him.

It is astonishing, isn't it? I'm reading Sirens of Titan right now and luck is such a big theme in it. You can always increase your odds by healthy living, but nothing is guaranteed. It really comes down to dumb luck.

Keith Richards is alive. Hard to think of a more improbable thing.

To be fair, from the casual glance over the causes of Parkinson's, it doesn't seem as if alcohol or drugs are probable causes of Parkinson's.

Now, if he got something with pesticides or whatever still on it, sure, but Parkinson's is relatively murky with regards as to what causes it.

Given that Parkinson's is a disease in which the neurons in the brain stop producing dopamine, it's just as possible that his drug use was treating his condition, not worsening it.

From what I can tell, Parkinson's doesn't have a direct, established environmental cause. Just some candidates which may increase risk.

Note: I'm not an MD or have any background in medicine.

Some of the symptoms (like tremors) of withdrawal after long term stimulant/cocaine/amphetamine use are similar to parkinsons too since both cause a shortage of dopamine in the brain. I kinda wonder if one could accidentally mask early symptoms of parkinsons.

I always assumed it was the drugs keeping him going, but in reality I think he quit them a long time ago.

What’s amazing is that 75.8 is the life expectancy of men in the US and he managed to cross it with the lifestyle he had.

Please implore your children and children’s children to leave a better world for Keith Richards.

Drug use is a risk factor for Parkinson's. A lot of drugs affect dopamine production or reuptake, and that seems to be able to cause a reduction in dopamine production later in life.

Did you mean a better world than Keith?

Presumably Keith will outlast your children.

/whoosh/

Well it's 78.8 in the UK

yup

I always liked the bill hicks bit about him finding another ledge.

Life expectancy of men *at birth*. Once you've made it to ten years old, those statistics don't apply any more.

In other words, the average lifespan of a 10-year old boy is not 65.8 additional years.

So don't hold the suspense - how much is it then and how does it stack with rest of developed world?

Even then, you’d be surprised that his lifestyle didn’t impact his lifespan more negatively.

But you’ll have chain smokers who live into their nineties.

Keith Richards actually died sometime in 1983, but the doctors forgot to tell him.

Occasionally he spends a year dead for tax purposes.

Well but he spent a good time living in the US so it kinda averages out

I once saw him described as an animate assemblage of drugs.

> It really comes down to dumb luck

Let's not forget Ozzy's immense wealth that allowed him the best medical care and health/fitness programs in his later years. He stopped living "hard" by the 2000s, at least by his 1980s standards.

Had he kept living hard he wouldn't have made it.

His alcohol consumption levels usually result in death in one's 50s, maybe 60s, maybe 40s.