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jleyank ◴[] No.44611189[source]
It's really depressing how the US system seems to have existed "on belief". Once somebody set out to damage or destroy it, away it went. Pretty much without a whimper.

As I recall, the system was set up with 3 branches of government in tension. Obviously, that was naive.

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asperous ◴[] No.44613048[source]
The framers noted that the system was vulnerable to a single "faction" [1]. The solution was to have many competing factions. I think first-past-the-post, corporate election influence, and mass media consolidated power into a single faction that ended up causing the system to break down (in that the branches don't seem to be checking each other's power right now).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10

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freddie_mercury ◴[] No.44613773[source]
I don't think corporate election influence or mass media really have anything to do with it.

The issue first showed up in 1828 election, when some of the Framers were still alive, and the US basically did nothing about it over the ensuing 200 years.

Remember it was Andrew Jackson who went around ignoring Supreme Court decisions and saying "they made their decision, let's see them enforce it".

And his abuse of executive powers during the Bank Wars to punish political enemies led to the formation of a new political party.

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gepardi ◴[] No.44624912[source]
Dark Money has nothing to do with being able to consolidate power, gerrymander, and reduce the system to a two-party system whose members seem to be mostly under the influence of their own desire for gain? Which brings us back to the money…
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1. throwawayqqq11 ◴[] No.44632264[source]
Are you kidding? No other democracy spends this much on campaigns.

https://theconversation.com/the-scale-of-us-election-spendin...

Would you like to argue money has no influence on political outcomes? Please go ahead.