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    bgwalter ◴[] No.44625261[source]
    Translation: His company will launch "AI" products in order to get funding or better compete with Valkey.

    I find it very sad that people who have been really productive without "AI" now go out of their way to find small anecdotal evidence for "AI".

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    brokencode ◴[] No.44625432[source]
    I find it even more sad when people come out of the woodwork on every LLM post to tell us that our positive experiences using LLMs are imagined and we just haven’t realized how bad they are yet.
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    1. on_the_train ◴[] No.44625504[source]
    If LLMs were actually useful, there would be no need to scream it everywhere. On the contrary: it would be a guarded secret.
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    2. neuronexmachina ◴[] No.44625575[source]
    In my experience, devs generally aren't secretive about tools they find useful.
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    3. hobs ◴[] No.44625612[source]
    I think many devs are guarding their secrets, but the last few decades have shown us that an open foundation can net huge benefits for everyone (and then you can put your secret sauce in the last mile.)
    4. logsr ◴[] No.44625707[source]
    posting a plain text description of your experience on a personal blog isn't exactly screaming. in the noise of the modern internet this would be read by nobody if it wasn't coming from one of the most well known open source software creators of all time.

    people who believe in open source don't believe that knowledge should be secret. i have released a lot of open source myself, but i wouldn't consider myself a "true believer." even so, i strongly believe that all information about AI must be as open as possible, and i devote a fair amount of time to reverse engineering various proprietary AI implementations so that i can publish the details of how they work.

    why? a couple of reasons:

    1) software development is my profession, and i am not going to let anybody steal it from me, so preventing any entity from establishing a monopoly on IP in the space is important to me personally.

    2) AI has some very serious geopolitical implications. this technology is more dangerous than the atomic bomb. allowing any one country to gain a monopoly on this technology would be extremely destabilizing to the existing global order, and must be prevented at all costs.

    LLMs are very powerful, they will get more powerful, and we have not even scratched the surface yet in terms of fully utilizing them in applications. staying at the cutting edge of this technology, and making sure that the knowledge remains free, and is shared as widely as possible, is a natural evolution for people who share the open source ethos.

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    5. fellowniusmonk ◴[] No.44625738[source]
    People are insane, you can artificially pine for the simpler betters times made up in your mind when you could give oracle all your money.

    But I would stake my very life on the fact that the movement by developers we call open-source is the single greatest community and ethos humanity has ever created.

    Of course it inherits from enlightenment and other thinking, it doesn't exist in a vacuum, but it is an extension of the ideologies that came before it.

    I challenge anyone to come up with any single modern subcultures that has tangibly generated more that touches more lives, moves more weight, travels farther, effects humanity more every single day from the moment they wake up than the open source software community (in the catholic sense obviously).

    Both in moral goodness and in measurable improvement in standard of living and understanding of the universe.

    Some people's memories are very short indeed, all who pine pine for who they imagined they were and are consumed by a memetic desire of their imagined selves.

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    6. alwillis ◴[] No.44625750[source]
    If LLMs were actually useful, there would be no need to scream it everywhere. On the contrary: it would be a guarded secret.

    LLMs are useful—but there’s no way such an innovation should be a “guarded secret” even at this early stage.

    It’s like saying spreadsheets should have remained a secret when they amplified what people could do when they became mainstream.

    7. victorbjorklund ◴[] No.44625891[source]
    If Internet was actually useful there would be no need to scream it everywhere. Guess that means the internet is totally useless?
    8. bgwalter ◴[] No.44625974[source]
    If consumer "AI", and that includes programming tools, had real geopolitical implications it would be classified.

    The "race against China" is a marketing trick to convince senators to pour billions into "AI". Here is who is financing the whole bubble to a large extent:

    https://time.com/7280058/data-centers-tax-breaks-ai/

    9. badlibrarian ◴[] No.44626109{3}[source]
    > open-source is the single greatest community and ethos humanity has ever created

    good lord.

    10. brokencode ◴[] No.44626117[source]
    So ironic that you post this on Hacker News, where there are regularly articles and blog posts about lessons from the industry, both good and bad, that would be helpful to competitors. This industry isn’t exactly Coke guarding its secret recipe.
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