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phito ◴[] No.44617442[source]
I really wish some of my coworkers would stop using LLMs to write me emails or even Teams messages. It does feel extremely rude, to the point I don't even want to read them anymore.
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pyman ◴[] No.44617880[source]
Didn't our parents go through the same thing when email came out?

My dad used to say: "Stop sending me emails. It's not the same." I'd tell him, "It's better. "No, it's not. People used to sit down and take the time to write a letter, in their own handwriting. Every letter had its own personality, even its own smell. And you had to walk to the post office to send it. Now sending a letter means nothing."

Change is inevitable. Most people just won't like it.

A lot of people don't realise that Transformers were originally designed to translate text between languages. Which, in a way, is just another way of improving how we communicate ideas. Right now, I see two things people are not happy about when it comes to LLMs:

1. The message you sent doesn't feel personal. It reads like something written by a machine, and I struggle to connect with someone who sends me messages like that.

2. People who don't speak English very well are now sending me perfectly written messages with solid arguments. And honestly, my ego doest’t like it because I used to think I was more intelligent than them. Turns out I wasn't. It was just my perception, based on the fact that I speak the language natively.

Both of these things won't matter anymore in the next two or three years.

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aidos ◴[] No.44617893[source]
I really don’t think they’re the same thing. Email or letter, the words are yours while an LLM output isn’t.
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pyman ◴[] No.44617983[source]
Initially, it had the same effect on people until they got used to it. In the near future, whether the text is yours or not won't matter. What will matter is the message or idea you're communicating. Just like today, it doesn't matter if the code is yours, only the product you're shipping and problem it's solving.
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jaredcwhite ◴[] No.44619444[source]
Doesn't matter today? What are you even talking about? It completely matters if the code you write is yours. The only people saying otherwise have fallen prey to the cult of slop.
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lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.44619570[source]
Why does it matter where the code came from if it is correct?
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jaredcwhite ◴[] No.44619619[source]
Why does it matter where the paint came from if it looks pretty?

Why does it matter where the legal claims came from if a judge accepts them?

Why does it matter where the sound waves came from if it sounds catchy?

Why does it matter?

Why does anything matter?

Sorry, I normally love debating epistemology but not here on Hacker News. :)

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lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.44619752[source]
I understand the points about aesthetics but not law; the judge is there to interpret legal arguments and a lawyer who presents an argument with false premises, like a fabricated case, is being irresponsible. It is very similar with coding, except the judge is a PM.

It does not seem to matter where the code nor the legal argument came from. What matters is that they are coherent.

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1. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.44620965[source]
>It does not seem to matter where the code nor the legal argument came from.

You haven't read enough incoherent laws, I see.

https://www.sevenslegal.com/criminal-attorney/strange-state-...

I'm sure you can make a coherent argument for "It is illegal to cry on the witness stand", but not a reasonable one for actual humans. You're in a formal setting being asked to recall potentially traumatic incidents. No decent person is going to punish an emotional reaction to such actions. Then there are laws simply made to serve corporate interests (the "zoot suit", for instance within that article. Jaywalking is another famous one).

There's a reason an AI Judge is practically a tired trope in the cyberpunk genre. We don't want robots controlling human behavior.

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2. lcnPylGDnU4H9OF ◴[] No.44639917[source]
An AI judge is not what I'm talking about and I think that would be a terrible idea. The only thing I'm expecting an AI lawyer to do is generate text that may or may not read as a coherent legal argument. It is the human lawyer's responsibility to present the argument to the court and it does not matter whether the argument came from their head or from a computer; they are responsible for it similar to how a programmer is responsible for the code they include in a pull request.