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cakealert ◴[] No.44612557[source]
EU regulations are sometimes able to bully the world into compliance (eg. cookies).

Usually minorities are able to impose "wins" on a majority when the price of compliance is lower than the price of defiance.

This is not the case with AI. The stakes are enormous. AI is full steam ahead and no one is getting in the way short of nuclear war.

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oaiey ◴[] No.44612773[source]
But AI also carries tremendous risks, from something simple as automating warfare to something like a evil AGI.

In Germany we have still traumas from automatic machine guns setup on the wall between East and West Germany. The Ukraine is fighting a drone war in the trenches with a psychological effect on soldiers comparable to WWI.

Stake are enormous. Not only toward the good. There is enough science fiction written about it. Regulation and laws are necessary!

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tim333 ◴[] No.44614492[source]
I think your machine gun example illustrates people are quite capable of masacreing each other without AI or even high tech - in past periods sometimes over 30% of males died in warfare. While AI could get involved it's kind of a separate thing.
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FirmwareBurner ◴[] No.44614626[source]
Yeah, his automated gun phobia argument is dumb. Should we ban all future tech development because some people are a scared of some things that can be dangerous but useful? NO.

Plus, ironically, Germany's Rheinmetall is a leader in automated anti-air guns so the people's phobia of automated guns is pointless and, at least in this case, common sense won, but in many others like nuclear energy, it lost.

It seems like Germans area easy to manipulate to get them to go against their best interests, if you manage to trigger some phobias in them via propaganda. "Ohoohoh look out, it's the nuclear boogieman, now switch your economy to Russian gas instead, it's safer"

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1. whyever ◴[] No.44617339[source]
I think the argument was about automated killing, not automated weapons.

There are already drones from Germany capable of automatic target acquisition, but they still require a human in the loop to pull the trigger. Not because they technically couldn't, but because they are required to.