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greatgib ◴[] No.44601921[source]
It's totally crazy that we have to go through Microsoft to sign things to be able to have our OS run on third parties computers, and that Microsoft manage to win about this so easily as it was never seriously challenged.
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sugarpimpdorsey ◴[] No.44602288[source]
It makes more sense if you view it for what it is: Honest Satya's Certificate Authority.

Microsoft showed they can semi-competently run a PKI. The end.

Now had the Linux folks stepped up to the plate early on, instead of childishly acting like Secure Boot was the computing antichrist, the story might be different. But they didn't. We only have shim because some people at Red Hat had the common sense to play ball.

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ACCount36 ◴[] No.44602526[source]
Secure Boot is the computing antichrist, and Linux folk were 100% right to rally against it. As well as a whole bunch of other "Trusted Computing" garbage.
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froh ◴[] No.44602678[source]
mind to elaborate?

I'd love to know if my machine has been compromised with early boot stage "meta-hypervisor" or not.

the promise of secure boot and trusted computing is backdoor-free boot.

what is in your eyes evil and garbage about that?

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1. zozbot234 ◴[] No.44602956[source]
> I'd love to know if my machine has been compromised with early boot stage "meta-hypervisor" or not.

Boot from read-only media you control, or set up network boot from a source you trust - you have to trust the firmware anyway. Secure Boot itself is quite pointless.

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2. fsflover ◴[] No.44630127[source]
> you have to trust the firmware anyway

If it's FLOSS wirh reproducible builds, your trust can be minimized, since the community verification is going on constantly. Also, your suggestion is quite inconvenient and cumbersome to use and set up.