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1. omnibrain ◴[] No.44602459[source]
I'm sure this is a naive take, but why is it not possible to enter a new key into the BIOS (dating myself, I know it's EFI) by hand?
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2. nottorp ◴[] No.44602517[source]
You'd have control over what boots on your computer then...
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3. nicman23 ◴[] No.44602569[source]
it is
4. nicman23 ◴[] No.44602571[source]
you literally have though. you can self sign everything and set up uefi to only boot your signature
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5. ozgrakkurt ◴[] No.44602581[source]
That would be a disaster. Or imagine what would happen if you just disabled secure boot, your computer will be infected with viruses and your bank account emptied instantly I reckon
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6. jcgl ◴[] No.44602734[source]
It should be, at least on higher-end boards, no?
7. Dead_Lemon ◴[] No.44602920{3}[source]
Secure boot doesn't stop user-space malicious activity.

I'd argue that it only helps check a tick box on corporate security manifest, as it indicates the kernel being booted, is not tampered with.

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8. eqvinox ◴[] No.44603003[source]
It's possible and it's what you should be doing. "sbctl" (https://github.com/Foxboron/sbctl) AFAIK has a reasonable frontend for doing that on Linux (don't know, I did it manually). You have to put the system in "secure boot setup mode" in BIOS/UEFI options before booting, which enables changing the PK (Platform Key) which is used to chain off all the other keys. (Setup mode should be automatically exited when you install a new PK.)

You can keep the Microsoft keys in there if you want to dual boot Windows, you just need to re-sign the keys themselves with your own PK.

9. OldfieldFund ◴[] No.44604420{4}[source]
OP was being sarcastic
10. const_cast ◴[] No.44612585{3}[source]
Only on x86 secure boot implementations. On most devices with trusted boot, you don't have this option.
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11. nicman23 ◴[] No.44614688{4}[source]
uefi on non x86 is a non starter for most people anyways. not that uboot is better