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LLM Inevitabilism

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keiferski ◴[] No.44568304[source]
One of the negative consequences of the “modern secular age” is that many very intelligent, thoughtful people feel justified in brushing away millennia of philosophical and religious thought because they deem it outdated or no longer relevant. (The book A Secular Age is a great read on this, btw, I think I’ve recommended it here on HN at least half a dozen times.)

And so a result of this is that they fail to notice the same recurring psychological patterns that underly thoughts about how the world is, and how it will be in the future - and then adjust their positions because of this awareness.

For example - this AI inevitabilism stuff is not dissimilar to many ideas originally from the Reformation, like predestination. The notion that history is just on some inevitable pre-planned path is not a new idea, except now the actor has changed from God to technology. On a psychological level it’s the same thing: an offloading of freedom and responsibility to a powerful, vaguely defined force that may or may not exist outside the collective minds of human society.

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evantbyrne ◴[] No.44571000[source]
I'm pretty bearish on the idea that AGI is going to take off anytime soon, but I read a significant amount of theology growing up and I would not describe the popular essays from e.g., LessWrong as religious in nature. I also would not describe them as appearing poorly read. The whole "look they just have a new god!" is a common trope in religious apologetics that is usually just meant to distract from the author's own poorly constructed beliefs. Perhaps such a comparison is apt for some people in the inevitable AGI camp, but their worst arguments are not where we should be focusing.
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andai ◴[] No.44571085[source]
Maybe not a god, but we're intentionally designing artificial minds greater than ours, and we intend to give them control of the entire planet. While also expecting them to somehow remain subservient to us (or is that part just lip service)?
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yladiz ◴[] No.44571492{3}[source]
I’m sorry, but are you arguing that an LLM is anywhere near a human mind? Or are you arguing about some other AI?
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1. tsunamifury ◴[] No.44573002{4}[source]
If you understand the cultural concepts of Adam Curtis’s All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace, then yes we do keep trying to make gods out of inanimate things.

And it’s the atheists who continuously do it, claiming they don’t believe in God just markets or ai etc.

It’s an irony of ironies.