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pm90 ◴[] No.44564397[source]
I think the amount of turmoil around these deals is giving more weight to the possibility that we’re in a massive bubble thats quite divorced from any kind of fundamentals. Sooner or later the bubbles gonna burst.
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nikcub ◴[] No.44564871[source]
> divorced from any kind of fundamentals

Anthropic ARR went $1B -> $4B in the first half of this year. They're getting my $200 a month and it's easily the best money I spend. There's definitely something there.

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hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.44565447[source]
"Sooner or later the bubble's gonna burst" and "There's definitely something there" aren't mutually exclusive - in fact they often go together.

It makes me perhaps a little sad to say that "I'm showing my age" by bringing up the .com boom/bust, but this feels exactly the same. The late 90s/early 00s were the dawn of the consumer Internet, and all of that tech vastly changed global society and brought you companies like Google and Amazon. It also brought you Pets.com, Webvan, and the bajillion other companies chronicled in "Fucked Company".

You mention Anthropic, which I think is in a good a position as any to be one of the winners. I'm much less convinced about tons of the others. Look at Cursor - they were a first moving leader, but I know tons of people (myself included) who have cancelled their subscription because there are now better options.

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ttrmw ◴[] No.44565789[source]
what're you finding better than cursor now?
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g42gregory ◴[] No.44566387[source]
Claude Code with Pro, Max100, or Max200 subscriptions. Works with any IDE including none.

For the time being, nothing comes close, at least for me.

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1. hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.44572658[source]
This was my answer as well. And I think it just highlights all the serious dangers for the "API wrapper companies" compared to the foundation model companies.

User experience is definitely worth something, and I think Cursor had the first great code integration, but then there is very little stopping the foundation model companies from coming in and deciding they want to cut out the middleman if so desired.