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LLM Inevitabilism

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lsy ◴[] No.44568114[source]
I think two things can be true simultaneously:

1. LLMs are a new technology and it's hard to put the genie back in the bottle with that. It's difficult to imagine a future where they don't continue to exist in some form, with all the timesaving benefits and social issues that come with them.

2. Almost three years in, companies investing in LLMs have not yet discovered a business model that justifies the massive expenditure of training and hosting them, the majority of consumer usage is at the free tier, the industry is seeing the first signs of pulling back investments, and model capabilities are plateauing at a level where most people agree that the output is trite and unpleasant to consume.

There are many technologies that have seemed inevitable and seen retreats under the lack of commensurate business return (the supersonic jetliner), and several that seemed poised to displace both old tech and labor but have settled into specific use cases (the microwave oven). Given the lack of a sufficiently profitable business model, it feels as likely as not that LLMs settle somewhere a little less remarkable, and hopefully less annoying, than today's almost universally disliked attempts to cram it everywhere.

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strangescript ◴[] No.44570663[source]
I think the difference between all previous technologies is scope. If you make a super sonic jet that gets people from place A to place B faster for more money, but the target consumer is like "yeah, I don't care that much about that at that price point", then your tech sort is of dead. You are also fully innovated on that product, like maybe you can make it more fuel efficient, sure, but your scope is narrow.

AI is the opposite. There are numerous things it can do and numerous ways to improve it (currently). There is lower upfront investment than say a supersonic jet and many more ways it can pivot if something doesn't work out.

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peder ◴[] No.44572175[source]
Most of the comments here feel like cope about AI TBH. There's never been an innovation like this ever, and it makes sense to get on board rather than be left behind.
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1. Gormo ◴[] No.44572535[source]
> There's never been an innovation like this ever

There have been plenty of innovations like this. In fact, much of the hype around LLMs is a rehash of the hype around "expert systems" back in the '80s. LLMs are marginally more effective than those systems, but only marginally.

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2. peder ◴[] No.44581530[source]
Utter nonsense. The scale of disruption with LLMs is almost unfathomable. Every small business in the country has basically abandoned the big platforms and expensive enterprises for IT support, marketing and digital content creation, HR, legal...

Patients are having detailed conversations about their health with LLMs. Office visits for routine questions are plummeting.

Software is written almost entirely by LLMs, producing a greater volume of code in a fraction of the time.

Rapidly, we are approaching a point where there is no need for junior employees in most organizations. It's not industry-specific, it's universal. This will reshape corporate Big Four accounting, software engineering, and medicine because revenue will shift so dramatically.

This is not just some marginally more effective use of computing resources.

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3. Gormo ◴[] No.44582612[source]
Do you have even a shred of evidence to suggest that anything you're describing has actually taking place at scale?

"Software is written almost entirely by LLMs" is obviously false. "Every small business in the country has basically abandoned the big platforms and expensive enterprises for IT support" is obviously false. And how would you even know what medical conversations people are having with either their doctors or LLMs?

Everything you're saying sounds like unsubstantiated wishful thinking from someone who's taken a big gulp of the LLM Kool-Aid.