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    Cloudflare starts blocking pirate sites for UK users

    (torrentfreak.com)
    234 points gloxkiqcza | 12 comments | 15 Jul 25 14:33 UTC | HN request time: 1.232s | source | bottom
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    amiga386 ◴[15 Jul 25 15:09 UTC] No.44571961[source]▶
    PSA: UK users can visit all their favourite websites in Tor Browser. Just don't run your torrent client using the tor network. Thank you.

    You can also access 4chan, Tattle Life, and other nasty gossip websites that the UK nanny state wants to ban.

    And you can access the porn on Reddit and Twitter (though in some cases you'll have to make an account). And of course the "tube" sites work fine.

    After you've done that, as a UK citizen, please go to https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 and ask the government to repeal their awful law.

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    blackhaj7 ◴[15 Jul 25 15:42 UTC] No.44572325[source]▶
    > Just don't run your torrent client using the tor network. I have never used tor so novice question: why not?

    > please go to https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903 Signed!

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    1. Retr0id ◴[15 Jul 25 15:52 UTC] No.44572435[source]▶
    The tor network essentially relies on donated exit node bandwidth, and there's a finite capacity at any point in time. Torrenting is a bandwidth hog (and a lot of exit nodes will filter it out anyway)
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    2. noisem4ker ◴[15 Jul 25 17:03 UTC] No.44573369[source]▶
    Is it really just a matter of my bandwidth being hogged up, or more a risk of getting my IP address (range) banned, if not worse legal risks from activities being traced to me?
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    3. ajsnigrutin ◴[15 Jul 25 17:03 UTC] No.44573374[source]▶
    That's why some "tor-torrent" protocol should be invented, where data is sent via torrent network. There's still some bandwidth amplification, but as long as someone is seeding from within tor, the whole transfer could be done there.

    ...would also help with privacy and nasty telco letters.

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    4. immibis ◴[15 Jul 25 17:06 UTC] No.44573416[source]▶
    You can't get banned because no one knows who you are. You can bring down the entire Tor network. Probably not you by yourself, but if enough people do it they can.
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    6. johnmaguire ◴[15 Jul 25 17:10 UTC] No.44573450{3}[source]▶
    I believe OP was responding from the perspective of an exit node operator.
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    7. johnmaguire ◴[15 Jul 25 17:12 UTC] No.44573468[source]▶
    Yes, an exit node operator will appear as the source of the traffic, which can have legal repercussions. (Personal risk.)

    But on a macro scale, the entire Tor network has fairly limited bandwidth and torrenting is a very easy way to saturate it. (Existential risk to the network / tragedy of the commons)

    8. mhitza ◴[15 Jul 25 17:17 UTC] No.44573534[source]▶
    You can use the I2P network for torrenting if that's what you want, as that kind of traffic is not frowned upon.

    Probably going to be slower than over the Tor network without any manual tweaking.

    9. GoblinSlayer ◴[15 Jul 25 18:31 UTC] No.44574377[source]▶
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub
    10. schmidtleonard ◴[15 Jul 25 18:45 UTC] No.44574509[source]▶
    > donated exit node bandwidth

    Hey, we pay $100B/yr of tax money into the NSA/CIA/etc budgets every year so they can run exit nodes among other activities, I wouldn't exactly call it donated

    11. immibis ◴[15 Jul 25 20:04 UTC] No.44575283{4}[source]▶
    Exit nodes have to deal with much more severe things than copyright infringement. They regularly get raided by law enforcement for accusations of child porn and hacking, and have to defend themselves by pointing out they didn't originate the traffic. There's a whole bunch of tips out there about how to not go to jail for running an exit node (which is legal).
    12. blackhaj7 ◴[15 Jul 25 21:00 UTC] No.44575772[source]▶
    Thanks!