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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

469 points bookofjoe | 3 comments | 15 Jul 25 14:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.027s | source

I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across.

The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

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PaulHoule ◴[15 Jul 25 14:57 UTC] No.44571823[source]▶
This post is turning up at least every other day. The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30.

I am wondering what the ratio is for VC and angel dealflow in the valley right now.

Hanging out on the "new" page and upvoting quality non-AI articles is an effective method of resistance.

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delusional ◴[15 Jul 25 15:08 UTC] No.44571938[source]▶
> The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30.

A bigger impact for me has been the number of mentions of AI in the comments. It's not just that a large part of the front page is dominated by LLM hype posts, it's that every single post has a least one guy near the top somehow bringing AI into the discussion. I don't even care if it's "AI will fix this" or "haha, AI sucks at this too". I just don't want to hear anything about AI ever again.

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jader201 ◴[15 Jul 25 15:14 UTC] No.44572014[source]▶
> I just don't want to hear anything about AI ever again.

Genuinely curious: Why?

Don’t get me wrong, I upvoted this post, and would love to see AI separated out, or at least tagged (like a root comment suggests) so that I can filter them out if I want.

But I can’t say I’d never want to hear anything about AI ever again (though I’m headed in that direction).

What field are you in, and what are your interests, such that you’d want to visit HN without ever seeing mentions of AI?

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1. steveklabnik ◴[15 Jul 25 15:43 UTC] No.44572345[source]▶
Not your parent, and not anti-AI, but I’ve seen similar things to this thread in smaller spaces I’m in.

There are some people who are having genuine crises over this stuff, some of it existential, and some of it “wow I thought my friends had some basic agreements about the world that we actually don’t,” and seeing this stuff on the regular just fans these sorts of issues.

Also, in a simpler sense, there are a limited number of homepage spots, and if you don’t want to see a topic, it effectively shrinks your homepage. If HN only showed five stories to me it would be less useful than it is now.

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2. ryandrake ◴[15 Jul 25 18:16 UTC] No.44574225[source]▶
> Also, in a simpler sense, there are a limited number of homepage spots, and if you don’t want to see a topic, it effectively shrinks your homepage. If HN only showed five stories to me it would be less useful than it is now.

Yes, I feel like all these shallow "[Someone] vibe-coded [thing] with AI using [Claud whatever]" articles are hitting the front page and muscling out other, more interesting ones. Just like the "[Common unix utility] re-written in Rust!" articles of years past.

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3. PaulHoule ◴[15 Jul 25 18:39 UTC] No.44574447[source]▶
I wrote this

https://ontology2.com/essays/HackerNewsForHackers/

years ago but I don't stand by that article because I don't feel that way anymore. I do stand by the sequel

https://ontology2.com/essays/ClassifyingHackerNewsArticles/

because that's the operating principle of YOShInOn which is something a little more sophisticated applied to RSS feeds and productized.