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502 points alazsengul | 2 comments | 14 Jul 25 18:07 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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pm90 ◴[14 Jul 25 19:38 UTC] No.44564397[source]▶
I think the amount of turmoil around these deals is giving more weight to the possibility that we’re in a massive bubble thats quite divorced from any kind of fundamentals. Sooner or later the bubbles gonna burst.
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nikcub ◴[14 Jul 25 20:26 UTC] No.44564871[source]▶
> divorced from any kind of fundamentals

Anthropic ARR went $1B -> $4B in the first half of this year. They're getting my $200 a month and it's easily the best money I spend. There's definitely something there.

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hn_throwaway_99 ◴[14 Jul 25 21:18 UTC] No.44565447[source]▶
"Sooner or later the bubble's gonna burst" and "There's definitely something there" aren't mutually exclusive - in fact they often go together.

It makes me perhaps a little sad to say that "I'm showing my age" by bringing up the .com boom/bust, but this feels exactly the same. The late 90s/early 00s were the dawn of the consumer Internet, and all of that tech vastly changed global society and brought you companies like Google and Amazon. It also brought you Pets.com, Webvan, and the bajillion other companies chronicled in "Fucked Company".

You mention Anthropic, which I think is in a good a position as any to be one of the winners. I'm much less convinced about tons of the others. Look at Cursor - they were a first moving leader, but I know tons of people (myself included) who have cancelled their subscription because there are now better options.

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ttrmw ◴[14 Jul 25 21:58 UTC] No.44565789[source]▶
what're you finding better than cursor now?
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andrewmutz ◴[14 Jul 25 22:56 UTC] No.44566263[source]▶
Cline is absolutely fantastic when you combine it with Sonnet 4. Always use plan mode first and always have it write tests first (have it do TDD). It changed me from a skeptic to a believer and now I use it full time.
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v5v3 ◴[14 Jul 25 23:32 UTC] No.44566470[source]▶
How much is it costing you?
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ewoodrich ◴[15 Jul 25 01:15 UTC] No.44566949[source]▶
I use Roo Code (Cline fork) and spend roughly $15-30/mo by subscribing to Github Copilot Pro for $10/mo for unlimited use of GPT-4.1 via the VS Code LM API, and a handful of premium credits a month (I use Gemini 2.5 Pro for the most part).

Once I max out the premium credits I pay-as-you-go for Gemini 2.5 Pro via OpenRouter, but always try to one shot with GPT 4.1 first for regular tasks, or if I am certain it's asking too much, use 2.5 Pro to create a Plan.md and then switch to 4.1 to implement it which works 90% of the time for me (web dev, nothing too demanding).

With the different configurable modes Roo Code adds to Cline I've set up the model defaults so it's zero effort switching between them, and have been playing around with custom rules so Roo could best guess whether it should one shot with 4.1 or create a plan with 2.5 Pro first but haven't nailed it down yet.

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1. greggh ◴[15 Jul 25 15:27 UTC] No.44572178[source]▶
Looking at Cline, wondering what the real selling points for Roo Code are. Any chance you can say what exactly made you go with Roo Code instead of Cline?
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2. ewoodrich ◴[15 Jul 25 16:50 UTC] No.44573212[source]▶
Cline has two modes (Plan and Act) which work pretty well but Roo Code has 5 modes by default. (Code, Ask, Architect, Orchestrator, Debug) and it's designed so that users can add custom modes. e.g. I added a Code (simple) mode with instructions about the scale/complexity of tasks it can handle or decide to pass it to Code for a better model. I also changed the Architect mode to evaluate whether to redirect the user to Code or Code (simple) after generating a plan.

Roo Code just has a lot more config exposed to the user which I really appreciate. When I was using Cline I would run into minor irritating quirks that I wished I can change but couldn't vs. Roo where the odds are pretty good there are some knobs you could turn to modify that part of your workflow.