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467 points bookofjoe | 5 comments | | HN request time: 0.022s | source

I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across.

The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

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PaulHoule ◴[] No.44571823[source]
This post is turning up at least every other day. The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30.

I am wondering what the ratio is for VC and angel dealflow in the valley right now.

Hanging out on the "new" page and upvoting quality non-AI articles is an effective method of resistance.

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delusional ◴[] No.44571938[source]
> The last few times my reply was "AI is 4/30 or 5/30 of the front page, it's not such a big deal", but today it is 9/30.

A bigger impact for me has been the number of mentions of AI in the comments. It's not just that a large part of the front page is dominated by LLM hype posts, it's that every single post has a least one guy near the top somehow bringing AI into the discussion. I don't even care if it's "AI will fix this" or "haha, AI sucks at this too". I just don't want to hear anything about AI ever again.

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jader201 ◴[] No.44572014[source]
> I just don't want to hear anything about AI ever again.

Genuinely curious: Why?

Don’t get me wrong, I upvoted this post, and would love to see AI separated out, or at least tagged (like a root comment suggests) so that I can filter them out if I want.

But I can’t say I’d never want to hear anything about AI ever again (though I’m headed in that direction).

What field are you in, and what are your interests, such that you’d want to visit HN without ever seeing mentions of AI?

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1. bluefirebrand ◴[] No.44572111[source]
Not the OP, but I'm sick to death of hearing about AI

The hype around it is ridiculous. I don't personally find it nearly as useful as people are saying, so everything feels like people are trying to gaslight me

Don't get me wrong, it's cool tech. Amazing stuff. I just personally don't have much interest in it until it's much more reliable for the things I want to use it for

And I'm really exhausted, tired of hearing about how this is going to replace people like me any minute now

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2. ryandrake ◴[] No.44574243[source]
> And I'm really exhausted, tired of hearing about how this is going to replace people like me any minute now

I'm kind of exhausted in general (year after year) of frankly unimaginative engineers who should know better, latching on to whatever is the latest soup of the month, and touting it here as the greatest human achievement since fire.

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3. bluefirebrand ◴[] No.44574598[source]
I do wish that there was a good place to talk about interesting stuff with people online that was a bit more resistant to both the extreme hype and the extreme pessimism

HN threads very often feel like whichever side posted first winds up dominating the thread, it's bizarre

I see the comments on some articles that are massively pro AI all upvoted to the top, then the comments on another article and it's all the negative AI comments upvoted

It's weirdly echo-chambery on a post by post basis

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4. Karrot_Kream ◴[] No.44575105{3}[source]
Yeah this has been the worst development in HN culture as HN has grown in my experience. To make things worse the extremity of the hype and pessimism just creates a huge flamewar where each side is dedicated to using the worst strawmen to undermine the other side.

Personally I just started treating this site as a sophisticated shitposting place and started actually talking about tech in group chats with friends who work in the industry. Increasingly I see folks refer to the content here in the same breath as Reddit so I don't think I'm the only one.

It's probably just a scale problem. When a website becomes big enough it becomes dominated by the folks with the most time to post and the most passionate opinions.

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5. bluefirebrand ◴[] No.44576911{4}[source]
> Personally I just started treating this site as a sophisticated shitposting place and started actually talking about tech in group chats with friends who work in the industry

Yeah... I think this is probably smart. I wish I had that, I don't have a lot of friends in the industry

Something to work