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pm90 ◴[] No.44564397[source]
I think the amount of turmoil around these deals is giving more weight to the possibility that we’re in a massive bubble thats quite divorced from any kind of fundamentals. Sooner or later the bubbles gonna burst.
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nikcub ◴[] No.44564871[source]
> divorced from any kind of fundamentals

Anthropic ARR went $1B -> $4B in the first half of this year. They're getting my $200 a month and it's easily the best money I spend. There's definitely something there.

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hn_throwaway_99 ◴[] No.44565447[source]
"Sooner or later the bubble's gonna burst" and "There's definitely something there" aren't mutually exclusive - in fact they often go together.

It makes me perhaps a little sad to say that "I'm showing my age" by bringing up the .com boom/bust, but this feels exactly the same. The late 90s/early 00s were the dawn of the consumer Internet, and all of that tech vastly changed global society and brought you companies like Google and Amazon. It also brought you Pets.com, Webvan, and the bajillion other companies chronicled in "Fucked Company".

You mention Anthropic, which I think is in a good a position as any to be one of the winners. I'm much less convinced about tons of the others. Look at Cursor - they were a first moving leader, but I know tons of people (myself included) who have cancelled their subscription because there are now better options.

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ForHackernews ◴[] No.44566666[source]
I genuinely don't understand what value Cursor itself brings. It's like a wrapper for some APIs, right? As far as I can tell there's like four actual AI firms in the world and everyone else is trying to whitelabel. It reminds me of the hosting industry in the early 2000s.
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xyzzy9563 ◴[] No.44566793[source]
It's a very well done wrapper that improves your coding productivity a lot.
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gruez ◴[] No.44567025[source]
The problem is that they have no moat and the underlying provider can easily cut them out.
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xyzzy9563 ◴[] No.44567442[source]
Not really, it's pretty hard to get the editor and code editing via AI working as well as they did.
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1. macrolime ◴[] No.44569002[source]
If it's so hard, then why are there multiple open source projects that are just as good?
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2. xyzzy9563 ◴[] No.44571571[source]
They're not just as good unless you are willing to spend huge amounts in API credits.