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502 points alazsengul | 2 comments | 14 Jul 25 18:07 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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pm90 ◴[14 Jul 25 19:38 UTC] No.44564397[source]▶
I think the amount of turmoil around these deals is giving more weight to the possibility that we’re in a massive bubble thats quite divorced from any kind of fundamentals. Sooner or later the bubbles gonna burst.
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nikcub ◴[14 Jul 25 20:26 UTC] No.44564871[source]▶
> divorced from any kind of fundamentals

Anthropic ARR went $1B -> $4B in the first half of this year. They're getting my $200 a month and it's easily the best money I spend. There's definitely something there.

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benjaminwootton ◴[14 Jul 25 20:36 UTC] No.44564952[source]▶
I’ve always dwelled over $5 a month subscriptions for iPhone apps due to subscription fatigue. I find myself signing up for $200 AI subscriptions without a moments hesitation.
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smith7018 ◴[14 Jul 25 20:37 UTC] No.44564959[source]▶
I hope both of you know that you're in the extreme minority, right?
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jarredkenny ◴[14 Jul 25 20:40 UTC] No.44564984[source]▶
A very productive minority.
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acmj ◴[14 Jul 25 21:46 UTC] No.44565715{3}[source]▶
Are there studies to show those paying $200/month to openai/claude are more productive?
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jfim ◴[14 Jul 25 22:00 UTC] No.44565808{4}[source]▶
Anecdotally, I can take on and complete the side projects I've always wanted to do but didn't due to the large amounts of yak shaving or unfamiliarity with parts of the stack. It's the difference between "hey wouldn't it be cool to have a Monte Carlo simulator for retirement planning with multidimensional search for the safe withdrawal rate depending on savings rate, age of retirement, and other assumptions" and doing it in an afternoon with some prompts.
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OccamsMirror ◴[15 Jul 25 01:42 UTC] No.44567099{5}[source]▶
For curiosity, how complex are these side projects? My experience is that Claude Code can absolutely nail simple apps. But as the complexity increases it seems to lose its ability to work through things without having to burn tokens on constantly reminding it of the patterns it needs to follow. At the very least it diminishes the enjoyment of it.
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ido ◴[15 Jul 25 04:26 UTC] No.44567818{6}[source]▶
Simple apps are the majority of use-cases though - to me this feels like what programming/using a computer should have been all along: if I want to do something I’m curious about I just try with Claude whereas in the past I’d mostly be too lazy/tired to program after hours in my free time (even though my programming ability exceed Claude’s).
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1. OccamsMirror ◴[15 Jul 25 06:17 UTC] No.44568351{7}[source]▶
Well that's why I'm curious. I've been reading a lot of people talking about how the Max plan has 100x their productivity and they're getting a ton of value out of Claude Code. I too have had moments where Claude Code did amazing things for me. But I find myself in a bit of a valley of despair at the moment as I'm trying to force it to do things I'm finding out that it's not good at.

I'm just worried that I'm doing it wrong.

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2. jfim ◴[16 Jul 25 02:17 UTC] No.44578049[source]▶
There are definitely things it can't do, and things it hilariously gets wrong.

I've found though that if you can steer it in the right direction it usually works out okay. It's not particularly good at design, but it's good at writing code, so one thing you can do is say write classes and some empty methods with // Todo Claude: implement, then ask it to implement the methods with Todo Claude in file foo. So this way you get the structure that you want, but without having to implement all the details.

What kind of things are you having issues with?